Damn right. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Interstellar travel and more.

Down here we have a bumper sticker that says "FORGET, HELL!". Maybe you'd feel the same way if Lee had marched through the northeast and burned everything and left formerly prosperous families destitute and a profitable farm economy in shambles. Heck, we've spent the past 100 years or so stealing your manufacturing base to try to make up for it.

I don't spend much time worrying about it, but there certainly is an occasional conversation or contemplation of States Rights that will bring it out in most real Southerners (as opposed to transplants or the younger generation). In time it'll be forgotten.... maybe a couple of thousand years. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I had a grandfather with a few "great"s in front who was a General in the Army of the Confederate States of America (yes, we all had one of those in our lineage)... while he was away at war, a Union General and a couple of lackeys came up on the porch of his house and told his wife they were going to take over her house and use it for a field headquarters.... she ran 'em away with the broom in her hand. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> On the not-so-funny side, there is a Union monument at the very tip end of Maryland's western shore at a place called Point Lookout. That obelisk monument marks the spot where a Union POW camp was built during the War of Northern Aggression. Conditions were horrible and prisoners were treated pretty badly. The names of those who died in that prison are inscribed all up and down on all sides of the monument. One of them shares my name.

Point Lookout Prison

You might want to take a few minutes and read this:

Causes of the Civil War (from the Southern View)

You see, like my great-grandfather and his brother who set out on foot from NC to find their fortune and didn't stop walking until they reached the fertile fields of South Georgia, the same spirit that built America after the Revolution also built the South... until the North decided to meddle a bit more than necessary... in their omnipotent, duplicitous and sanctimonious hypocrisy. And I see Mr. Kennedy is still carrying the banner.

Other than that, the North is perfectly ok by me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

You did ask. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Never heard that "cracker" was related to cracking the whip. That would remind me of the NE factories before labor reform.

I could be the the "Daughters of the Confederate Revolution" and the "Daughters of the American Revolution."
That's what happens when you mix New England & Mississippi.

As for scrapple. Store-bought is really awful compared to what Miz Frankie makes. She uses pork, usually ground & Boston butt. I've never made it myself, so don't have the recipe. When she makes it, she KNOWs to save me two slices.

So cracker is derogatory? Kinda like Redneck but some folks don't care? I showed off-road pics in the office the other day and got called redneck. Didn't bother me.

next time you see "miz frankie" could you coerce her out of the receipe and pm it to me? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> please <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.
as for cracker being a "bad word", sure it is... but i think most people of european heritage could care less to be called one, because after all we wernt the ones cracking the whip. btw, proud northern here, hell ulysses s. grant's rocking chair is sitting in my parents basement... still has yet to be refurbished as its been in our family for generations <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />.

The Fox theatre in Atlanta has a summer film series. These usually have a mixture of older classic films and newer ones. One summer I watched "Gone With The Wind" and "Star Wars". I'll leave it to you to guess who got more boos and hissing, Darth Vader or Gen. Sherman. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Somehow I feel that if Washington DC, Boston or other northern cities would have been burned to the ground and the invading army carried out a scorched earth policy on the march to the sea, that there would be some lingering effect on the local population.

Just as a follow-up, here's the honor roll of those names inscribed on the monument - representing those who died in captivity. Please stand and sing a verse of "Amazing Grace" in honor of:

Cpl T. J. Rountree, "F" Co, 3rd Regiment, Tennessee

And so as to not slight those who died in that God-forsaken place, but were buried there and did not have their names inscribed on the monument, please stand for the playing of Taps and salute:

Sgt Merida M. Rountree, Co. "D", 59th Regiment, Georgia

And so many others.... may they rest in peace.

Frank

I've heard that the term, "cracker" was associated with those pioneering into Florida, cracking their whips on the backs of their horse or oxen-drawn wagons, negotiating through thick palmetto.

I think I heard it during a PBS historic special on T.V., if memory serves.

To get back a little more to the thread topic (well very little, actually) - and speaking of politically correct - a few years ago I was running a business near Boston and was on a committee for ATMI (American Textile Manufacturers Association). There was trade legislation before Congress that was very detrimental to American business interests and particularly to labor. I had a meeting in the office of your Congressional Representative... Marty Meehan.... to lobby his support for a vote in favor of the little guy and textile workers.... some of whom still try to make a living in a very tough industry. I explained that a vote along party lines might cause enough damage to the industry that I would have to consider moving the business away from the area. Rep. Meehan's opinion of my solicitation was that I was correct and he felt the same as I, but because of pressure from party bosses, his hands were tied and he would have to vote otherwise. I was incredulous.

As I left his inner office and was saying goodbye to his secretary, he sent his aide out to ask me a question which went like this.... "Rep. Meehan would like to know.. how many people are employed in your business?" Again I was astounded - as if that had anything to do with Right v. Wrong.... all it had to do with was how many votes he was going to lose in the next election. I moved the business to SC within a few weeks. The only thing I regretted was that I didn't have thousands of employees.

But he was politically correct.... for himself.

Frank

wow. well that answers my question Frank.

I always thought that the south was just pissed off that they had to give up their slaves and start working themselves. hmm. oh well, I've learned something new I guess.

It's too bad that damn Lincoln guy had to screw up such a good thing.
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From a list of ethnic slurs:



This suggests that "soda cracker" (still used by many blacks) may be the origin and that cracking a whip had nothing to do with the origin of the term. It does relegate the initial term to residents of Georgia, though:

Cracker

A Similar View

Here's a funny one:



Amyway, if anybody wants to find out what it really means, please let this honky cracker know.

Frank