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engine fan shaft???? #691765 01/31/06 04:18 PM
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k guys......i have a 91 toyota pickup sr5 3.0 v6 xcab 4x4 stick...........on the way 2 church sunday i heard a rattling all of a sudden like somethin had came loose. So i pulled over an apparantly the shaft that spins the engine cooling fan (whats it called??) sheared,sending my fan into my radiator <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> NOT COOL lol........soo i have a nasty gouge in my radiator an one of my fan blades snapped off an the shaft is sheared... the trucks at the mechanics an hell take forever to fix it.... i can replace the fan an radiator no sweat but this shaft has me stumped... can you just pull it out an "screw" a new one in??? also if anybody has a parts truck in texas i needa radiator an engine cooling fan and a new shaft.... thanks 4 any help guys!!!!


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: irish_ROCKS] #691766 01/31/06 05:30 PM
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Might be easier to put in a Flexlite electric fan if the shaft is fubar. Compare cost,who knows. Might be cheaper to upgrade. Saw a write up on the install not too long ago, might be 4crawlers site.

Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: Seattlegti] #691767 01/31/06 06:20 PM
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I've also heard good things about the flexalite fans, if you go electrial, think about installing a cut off switch for those pesky water crossings <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: 4WD22R] #691768 01/31/06 07:08 PM
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I'd look into an electric fan as well.


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road] #691769 01/31/06 07:13 PM
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If you are talking about what I am think and you have to buy it new be in for a price shock. It is a very expensive part. Hopefully you will be able to find one used. It is called the fan bracket.


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: OOP'S] #691770 01/31/06 11:32 PM
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thanks guys.... wats the thing with electric?? my bud said id have 2 hook up a sensor n stuff ...how hard would that b??? jus curious id never thought bout doin that before.....an yeah i was afraid o the sticker shock thing...lol luck o the irish ;p


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: irish_ROCKS] #691771 01/31/06 11:36 PM
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thanks guys.... wats the thing with electric?? my bud said id have 2 hook up a sensor n stuff ...how hard would that b??? jus curious id never thought bout doin that before.....an yeah i was afraid o the sticker shock thing...lol luck o the irish ;p


Yeah, you're going to need to hook up a thermo sensor, or wire it to always be on.....or on a dash mounted switch. Not sure how it works I've never installed one. Can't be that hard though.....power wire, thermo sensor on the rad/block....two maybe 3 wires, depending on how complicated you want to make it with switches, etc.


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Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: 4WD22R] #691772 01/31/06 11:56 PM
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http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/WaterProofing.shtml#FanControl

Some good stuff from 4crawler about the electric fan set up on 2nd gen Toyotas.

Re: engine fan shaft???? [Re: 4WD22R] #691773 02/01/06 12:00 AM
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Yes, Toyota wants over $500 for the fan idler bracket. I bought one from ebay (Click Here) about a year or so ago. I bought it as a spare because I was changing my timming belt and I wasn't sure how long my orignal would last. I now have a Black Magic fan and I'm thinking of just cutting off the shaft and buying shorter belts when it goes out. One less thing to fail. My new one is still sitting on the shelf a year later, waiting for the original to fail......


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Fan Bracket [Re: irish_ROCKS] #691774 02/01/06 12:35 AM
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Breath deep, uuuuuuuhhhh huuuuuummmm

This is not as easy as 'going to electric fan'.
It's called the "Fan Bracket" assembly, and commonly mis-identified as the water pump [Linked Image]

and another weakness on the 3.0, however I got hi miles out of one, they are prone to failure if you offroad around water, as most things with bearings will do, or overtighten yer belts.
Unfortunately it does more than just hold the fan, it assists the power steering & alternator belts.
In your case, if the shaft broke, its likely the bearings that failed, and you still need to turn the accesories.

You can replace it, easiest way to go back to what you had, here at 88$: National Auto Parts - Fan Bracket
Be careful here, there are two types:
with & without the hydraulic tensioner (94 & up).
I'm not positive, but the hyd tensioner model should fit the non (however robbin the guys that need it).

I'm not sure if these guys are rebuilding the brkt or what, I looked into it very extensivly (as a business opportunity), but couldn't find any bearing suppliers worth wild. It needs to be a long bearing, and the hole likely needs to be machined. It could still be done, but not worth it for me, because.....

I chose to eliminate it, as the body lift dictated electric fan, as I chose to keep the radiator at the stock location (high=good-easier to bleed cool sys).

Eliminating it requires:
additon of elec fan
use of shorter belts
modifying of brkt to clear new belts
I would also suggest cover any hole you may leave behind, to keep debris out of the Timing belt train.
I used:
-Napa 25-9463 û Replacement Power Steering belt (V)
-Napa 25-040410 û Replacement Alternator belt (Ribbed)

So the problem you create, is the new belts interfere:
[Linked Image]

You can clearance as you see fit, but I used a 1 3/8 freeze plug to cover up the hole.
In the end, it really cleans up the engine compartment, and makes less noise.
[Linked Image]
I credit "Jays88Toy" (from NJ?) for the idea several years ago, I know many others have done it, and I've posted on it in the past.....

My take on electric fans.
Fans are not needed going down the highway, or short stop & go stuff. Heavy stopped traffic, and trail riding most definitley. Going thru a 'water hole' definitely cools down the rad/engine obviously. Once you go electric, you've created a new maintenance item, if you wheel around water.
If you neglect this item, it can bite you, as you don't want to overheat this engine, stressing the heads & gaskets.
Electric fans is not for everyone, and pick something that you can replace down the road (again, if you wheel).

Sorry for the rant.....GL

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