thanks for the link. im fixing to make a set of spacers for my monty for an additional 1.5/2"'s of lift when i do the genII upper a-arms and flip the ball joints. was thinking, since this thing will never be doing any "serious" off roading (did it once... and still hear about it from the wife... something along the lines of "WHEEL YOURS DAMMIT!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />), mabey i shouldotta just do some spacers for the rear springs and crank the t-bars. anybody got a drawing/design for spacers? no, im not thrifty... im cheap <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />!