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Re: Spark Plugs [Re: hupptoy] #702922 03/07/06 08:19 PM
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I know when I changed plugs on my 3.4 at 60K, I found that the dealer *forgot* to change them at 30K (don't use that dealer anymore).
hupptoy


Same thing happened to me! I had the 60k service done in case I sold the truck I'd have a record. At 95k it started missing badly which scared the bejeezes out of me. I decided to do the service myself and I found that the non-platinum plugs lookedg great but the platinums looked like hell because they had a 100k miles on them! Just goes to show you that if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.

BTW, is that 3 plugs platinum, 3 plugs non-platinum just a cost savings measure? Seems silly.

Re: Spark Plugs #702923 03/07/06 08:39 PM
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BTW, is that 3 plugs platinum, 3 plugs non-platinum just a cost savings measure? Seems silly.



Seems like I wouldn't go back there.........


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Re: Spark Plugs #702924 03/08/06 12:44 AM
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I decided to do the service myself and I found that the non-platinum plugs looked great but the platinums looked like hell because they had a 100k miles on them! Just goes to show you that if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.

BTW, is that 3 plugs platinum, 3 plugs non-platinum just a cost savings measure? Seems silly.

I have heard of different brands on each bank of the 3.4 (mine had Denso on one side and NGK on the other), but they were all non-Platinum.
I have never heard of Toyota using Platinum on one bank and non-Platinum on the other though.

What year and motor was this?

hupptoy


99 4Runner SR5 3.4 Auto 4x4, 32" LTX A/T, 154K
93 Toy x-cab 22RE 5-spd 4x4, 31" LTX A/T, 150K
Re: Spark Plugs [Re: hupptoy] #702925 03/09/06 11:32 PM
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I didn't know either but if you look at the maintenance schedule it says to change non-plat every 30k and all plugs at 60k. That is also echoed in the maint section on this site.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/tacoma_4runner_30k/maintenancep3.html#plugs

The only thing I can figure is that the plugs under the coil packs get a slightly better spark so perhaps they figure they could get away with non-plat on that bank?

Re: Spark Plugs [Re: Mark in AZ] #702926 03/10/06 03:03 PM
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Well I tried the .031 gap. WRONG. I tried the .044 gap. RIGHT

The manual for the 04 2.4L is INcorrect. .044 is correct.

Yes NGK and Denso, spec. the gap at .044.


Re: Spark Plugs #702927 03/10/06 09:17 PM
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I didn't know either but if you look at the maintenance schedule it says to change non-plat every 30k and all plugs at 60k. That is also echoed in the maint section on this site.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/tacoma_4runner_30k/maintenancep3.html#plugs

The only thing I can figure is that the plugs under the coil packs get a slightly better spark so perhaps they figure they could get away with non-plat on that bank?

Are you sure that you had 3 platinum and 3 non-platinum? Or did you just have the different brands (NGK/Denso)?

The maintence schedule is a generic version for all Toyotas of that year, that is why they list both Platinum and non-Platinum plug change schedules. And the link only seems to mention the non-platinum that the trucks use.

I think a lot of their cars had the platinum and their trucks had the non-platinum.

hupptoy


99 4Runner SR5 3.4 Auto 4x4, 32" LTX A/T, 154K
93 Toy x-cab 22RE 5-spd 4x4, 31" LTX A/T, 150K
Re: Spark Plugs [Re: hupptoy] #702928 03/12/06 02:42 PM
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For those without manuals, you should also be able to find this info on a sticker under the hood.

Re: Spark Plugs [Re: bard] #702929 03/12/06 03:21 PM
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The Manual does say .031. The correct gap is .044.

I know, I have tried .031. This was on #90919-01164 aslo listed as K16R-U11. These are the O.E.M.plugs that are in the truck, when you purchase it.
I just installed yesterday, NGK BKR5EIX-11. These are Iridium center electrode, with a taper cut ground electrode.

I saw NO reason to change plugs every 30K miles. If, you have done this on a 2.4L, you know it is not a piece of cake.
The air intake passes over the two center plugs. It has to be taken apart to get to them.


Re: Spark Plugs [Re: Mark in AZ] #702930 03/14/06 12:55 AM
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Re: Spark Plugs [Re: ttus] #702931 03/14/06 02:29 PM
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I saw NO reason to change plugs every 30K miles. If, you have done this on a 2.4L, you know it is not a piece of cake.
The air intake passes over the two center plugs. It has to be taken apart to get to them.


I don't blame you. As long as it's runs fine and the MPG is normal, why bother. I bought my 96 used with ~120k miles on it. I changed the plugs a couple of months later and found that they were the originals. The center electrodes were worn to a V because of the twin side electrodes. Yet my MPG didn't budge a bit afterwards. I guess I won't bother replacing them ever again <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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