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The long block is in...question
#708780
03/22/06 03:37 AM
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The long block came in today and I am confused on why they look different. I am sure that someone here can tell me. The first picture is my old engine and the second one is the new one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> ![[Linked Image]](http://members.cox.net/wadee/images/new.jpg)
1988 Raider, 2.6L (Weber carb, PaceSetter header, Centerforce D/F clutch, 5-Speed M/T, 33X12.50 Pro Comp M/T, 15X8 US Wheel 97 Series) 3" Body Lift
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: n2dp]
#708781
03/22/06 04:29 AM
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Balance shaft eliminated?
Clay
1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)
KG6VNX
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: n2dp]
#708782
03/22/06 04:36 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
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Your new motor has a balance shaft elimination kit. It has no balance shaft, did you order it that way? It will still run fine but you might have slightly more vibration.
98 Montero with cold weather package 96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: LRJ4x4]
#708783
03/22/06 05:11 AM
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Joined: Mar 2006
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Do I need to cover the hole or is it fine open?
1988 Raider, 2.6L (Weber carb, PaceSetter header, Centerforce D/F clutch, 5-Speed M/T, 33X12.50 Pro Comp M/T, 15X8 US Wheel 97 Series) 3" Body Lift
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: n2dp]
#708784
03/22/06 06:11 AM
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Open, the oil will drain down.
98 Montero with cold weather package 96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: LRJ4x4]
#708785
03/22/06 06:17 AM
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Do you mean the oil will drain down the outside if it's left open?
I've never had one of those motors apart, but it seems to me that the PCV system wouldn't work either.
Clay
1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)
KG6VNX
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: 52degrees]
#708786
03/22/06 06:32 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
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Once the timing cover is on it will drain back into the pan. On the side of the block there is a cover for the balance shaft, that needs to be installed.
98 Montero with cold weather package 96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: LRJ4x4]
#708787
03/22/06 07:13 AM
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Joined: Feb 2006
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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If you look into where the balance shaft used to be there looks like and should be a race press fit into the hole to block the oil passage for the balance shaft. If its left out you will not get proper oil pressure.
87 Monty SWB 208k currently immobile: SOME RUST 89 Quest 61k slightly original DD---> Integra Rust bucket (gone but not forgotten) 02 BMW M5
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: Jimbotsi]
#708788
03/22/06 07:19 AM
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I can see the sleeve/plug in the hole for the upper ballance shaft.
Personally I never liked eliminting the ballance shafts. Some are OK with it. The upside is it is less parts to fail and it saves the rebuilder money.
The down side is the motor wont be as smooth and you may notice buzzing and vibration.
Kevin
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: The long block is in...question
[Re: Kevin C]
#708789
03/22/06 02:56 PM
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There is a sleeve in the hole, but it is not plugged. How much vibration are we talking and how much does this space affect the oil pressure?
1988 Raider, 2.6L (Weber carb, PaceSetter header, Centerforce D/F clutch, 5-Speed M/T, 33X12.50 Pro Comp M/T, 15X8 US Wheel 97 Series) 3" Body Lift
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