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Re: The long block is in...question [Re: n2dp] #708790 03/22/06 03:11 PM
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87Montero Offline
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It will only affect the oil pressure if it was missing that race that goes in the block.

My turbo engine has the elimination kit in it, and it does give out some more vibration around mid-rpms, but not all that bad, I just remember that it's a utility vehicle and don't expect it to ride as nice as my Honda.


1999 Mitsu Montero - Crappy Weather
1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse
2008 Saturn Sky Redline - Nice Weather
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: 87Montero] #708791 03/22/06 03:19 PM
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n2dp Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Is the ôraceö that hollow sleeve that is in the hole?


1988 Raider, 2.6L (Weber carb, PaceSetter header, Centerforce D/F clutch, 5-Speed M/T, 33X12.50 Pro Comp M/T, 15X8 US Wheel 97 Series)
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Re: The long block is in...question [Re: n2dp] #708792 03/22/06 06:57 PM
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Yes, it just blocks off the oil flow to what would have been the balance shaft to keep your oil pressure up.


1999 Mitsu Montero - Crappy Weather
1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse
2008 Saturn Sky Redline - Nice Weather
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: 87Montero] #708793 03/22/06 07:09 PM
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Winston Offline
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Mitsubishi Patented the balance shaft idea. Now that the patent has expired, others are using balance shafts. GM Ecotec engine is one example. I would not take it out.


'90 Montero XLS (Sold, sadly)
'95 Montero LS 160k
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Re: The long block is in...question [Re: 87Montero] #708794 03/22/06 07:27 PM
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n2dp Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I guess I am still lost. The sleeve doesnÆt seem to be blocking anything. The hole is still there.


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3" Body Lift
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: n2dp] #708795 03/22/06 07:46 PM
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Were not talking about that big hole, it's a little oil port below the race. If the race was not there the oil would squirt out to fast and you would loose oil pressure.


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Re: The long block is in...question [Re: n2dp] #708796 03/22/06 07:47 PM
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Kevin C Offline
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The sleeve blocks a drilled oil passage that connects to the #1 main bearing. The hole its blocking is about .08ö in diameter and perpendicular to the large hole.

Balance shafts date back to the 1900Æs, Mitsubishi patented an implementation of them. The idea itself has been around for a very long time.

Les was 20 seconds faster in his response smile

Kevin

Last edited by Kevin C; 03/22/06 07:48 PM.

87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: Kevin C] #708797 03/22/06 07:56 PM
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1987Raider Offline
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I've had my balance shafts out since my rebuild about 60K miles ago -- I can't tell any difference at all. Less to wear, less to brake. IMHO I can't see any reason to keep them -- sure wouldn't go through the trouble of reinsalling them if they were already removed. I have my old ones (which I don't believe have any problems) -- you can have them for postage cost if you want them.

Terry


1987 Raider 2.6L Auto -- rebuilt, by hand, by me -- Bouncy Seat/LSD/Aisin Hubs -- CB/Whip Antenna --Jensen Stereo -- Fire extinguisher .
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: LRJ4x4] #708798 03/22/06 07:56 PM
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n2dp Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I gotcha now. I suppose that I am just real nervous about this whole thing. It is my first time and I am afraid of trowing all of this money away.

How about a really silly question? What is the proper way to put gasket sealant on and why are there two colors(blue and red)? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />


1988 Raider, 2.6L (Weber carb, PaceSetter header, Centerforce D/F clutch, 5-Speed M/T, 33X12.50 Pro Comp M/T, 15X8 US Wheel 97 Series)
3" Body Lift
Re: The long block is in...question [Re: n2dp] #708799 03/22/06 09:20 PM
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Kevin C Offline
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while you are at it...

Get some new motor mounts. That will help isolate the motor a bit better and lessen the amount of vibration transmitted.

I find it interesting that some notice the shafts missing yet others dont. To me it was very obvious in feel and sound when I took them out of my blue Raider.

Do any of you get a vibration in your rear view mirror at highway speeds where it the images go in a little circle?

Kevin


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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