The ability to go topless in the Wrangler is one of the big draws to it... I had a friend when I was early in college that had a Wrangler and just cruising around town with the top off was really nice... I can't imagine it off road...

As for being burned on forums, I come from one of the worst for crucifying newbie questions... www.nasioc.com (North American Subaru Impreza Owners' Club)... aka Nabisco... and a vague newbie question like mine would result in a total flame out at a cross... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> So far 4x4wire has been awesome...

A short video for anyone to watch... it is always amazing to me how much footage I can shoot before getting enough to do anything with... this is from 1.5 hours of footage... and the passenger seat of a LR Discovery 2...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1748217443542852280&q=group555&pl=true

Higher quality if you download it