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Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's #712082 04/02/06 06:09 PM
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maniac28 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
My 89 V6 monty is losing coolant pretty badly, it looks and smells as though it's going out the exhaust. The truck has 238k miles so I'm not exactly surprised. Also, the fan clutch went bad last summer and it got pretty hot in traffic a few times, so that's probably what did it. The fan clutch has since been replaced. My two questions are as follows.

(1) How much would it cost, ballpark, to have this repair done by a shop? I'm not equipped to do it myself.

(2) How much is the truck worth as is? It's got the offroad package, the tranny is good, the LSD and 4wd work great, the body is not bad, everything else works on the truck. It actually runs fine, and you wouldn't know the problem unless you check the coolant level.

My two options right now are cough up the $$ to fix it, or sell it as is and get something more appropriate to my commuting needs (a 4 cyl car, I want a miata).

I like the monty but in reality I don't need it. also, anyone in socal that might be interested in the truck, let me know.


Ian S.
Temecula, CA
1989 Montero LWB V6 LSD, BFG AT's, Daily Driver
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: maniac28] #712083 04/02/06 07:10 PM
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1. IMO it's not worth the effort to just fix either the gasket or cracked head with 238K on the engine. I would check into a low milage import engine from Rising Sun or others in the SoCal area. Either way your looking at 2-3K,
Labor is the killer for old trucks.

2. The truck is not worth much to start, you might get 2K if it didn't have the engine problem. I know your going to be honest otherwise bad things will happen to you in the future <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Gas is $3 a gallon and if you commute that's got to be hurting your wallet. Time to break out the buzzards <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

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98 Montero with cold weather package
96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: LRJ4x4] #712084 04/02/06 08:00 PM
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maniac28 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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1. IMO it's not worth the effort to just fix either the gasket or cracked head with 238K on the engine. I would check into a low milage import engine from Rising Sun or others in the SoCal area. Either way your looking at 2-3K,
Labor is the killer for old trucks.

2. The truck is not worth much to start, you might get 2K if it didn't have the engine problem. I know your going to be honest otherwise bad things will happen to you in the future <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Gas is $3 a gallon and if you commute that's got to be hurting your wallet. Time to break out the buzzards <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

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2-3k is way to much for me to spend on an old vehicle like this. But I figured that's what a engine install would cost. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

If I sold it I would be completely honest about it's condition. I have bought/sold enough vehicles and motorcycles to understand the importance of full disclosure.

My best option might be to retire it to the state. If it fails smog (which it will, probably), they will pay me 1000 dollars to "retire" the vehicle, if it can be driven to a dismantler under it's own power (it can).

It's sad for me since this vehicle has always been so reliable and tough. I wish someone would buy it from me for cheap with the intent of fixing it up, I would feel a lot better knowing it wasn't going to be junked.


Ian S.
Temecula, CA
1989 Montero LWB V6 LSD, BFG AT's, Daily Driver
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: maniac28] #712085 04/02/06 09:52 PM
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FrankR Offline
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If it fails smog (which it will, probably), they will pay me 1000 dollars to "retire" the vehicle, if it can be driven to a dismantler under it's own power (it can).


You may have discovered a new source of income. Buy all of the old trucks you can find for $500, take them to the smog test and turn a $500 profit on each one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You can probably fix a blown head gasket for ~$500 if you find the right mechanic, but it might run $1000. The question is the underlying condition of the engine. At 235K miles, it's probably in need of rings and a valve job at the least. If so, you're quickly into a $2-3000 rebuild. Even a junkyard replacement engine will cost you $1000 minimum installed. Tough call - you're at the point where the lines cross on monetary return. If you have no need or use for the truck and it doesn't meet your requirements when fixed - and if you can't justify repairs as a hobby truck, you might as well take the $1000 and run..... and be thankful the State of California will bail you out.

Frank

Last edited by FrankR; 04/02/06 09:53 PM.

'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: FrankR] #712086 04/02/06 11:19 PM
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maniac28 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for the responses. For now I will drive it as is, and eventually let the state have it.

How long do you think I can drive it like this? It's losing about 8-12 oz of coolant a week, and I drive about 200 miles a week.


Ian S.
Temecula, CA
1989 Montero LWB V6 LSD, BFG AT's, Daily Driver
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: maniac28] #712087 04/02/06 11:29 PM
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LRJ4x4 Offline
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It's just a matter of time, might as well try some of those radiator additives <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> Who knows might clog your leak and keep on going till 300K <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Keep your AAA card and cell handy <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />


98 Montero with cold weather package
96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: maniac28] #712088 04/03/06 12:25 AM
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FrankR Offline
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If you want to make the attempt, you can always remove the valve covers and try retorquing the head bolts to 80 lb/ft... might work, more likely not. To do so requires some tools and mechanic's skills, though - since the upper plenum and other "stuff" has to be removed to get to the valve covers.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: FrankR] #712089 04/03/06 04:23 AM
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Oyaji_Jon Offline
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Does this vehicle have an auto tranny? Is it 2 or 4 doors? My number is 8582206418 if you want to talk...

Edit: I just read your sig and realize it's a 4 door. We can still talk... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Kuranosuke; 04/03/06 04:25 AM.

73
-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #712090 04/03/06 06:20 AM
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rxinhed Offline
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Instead of letting the state crush it and give away the 'pollution' credits, sell the truck on this board. That way, someone who needs parts will still be able to get them, and you'll still have the $$. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
Re: Leaky Head Gasket: 2 Q's [Re: rxinhed] #712091 04/03/06 06:27 AM
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Oyaji_Jon Offline
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73
-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
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