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Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: bigStinger] #714070 04/09/06 02:25 AM
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4WD22R Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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I just dealt with this myself. I had to take the bolt out twice, as I didn't have oil pressure the first time I tried.

Both times mine came off with elbow grease. The first time, I used a 3/8 drive - no problem. The 2nd time, that same rachet broke internally on me while trying the same maneuver. I went and bought a 1/2" breaker bar and used a 1/2" to 3/8" adapter with a 3/8" drive 19mm socket... I then sheared the adapter... Ran to the parts store and found a 1/2" drive 19mm socket... Used more elbow grease and thank the good Lord it finally gave it up.... I was way worried for a moment though.



D*mn!!! Which is why I but crapsman tools! I have a habit of breaking them, and they replace 'em for free!!


-1986 TOYOTA
22R
ZUK coil rear
Torqued T-Bars
Marlin HD clutch

Newly rebuilt!! Runnin' like a champ!

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Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: tucker80] #714071 04/09/06 02:33 AM
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stock87 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
You guys got the whole hi/low range thing backwards. Think about it: dropping it into a lower gear makes it easier for the engine to move the truck. The best possible setting would be 4th or 5th gear, hi range, 4wd. Hardest for the engine to turn the wheels/easiest for the wheels to keep the engine stationary.

4th gear and a 24 inch breaker bar were all we needed to get the crank bolt off my friend's 89 2WD with 278k.


My Truck: 1987 XtraCab DLX 22R 4WD 5 Speed Manual
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Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: stock87] #714072 04/09/06 03:30 AM
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4Crawler Offline
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You guys got the whole hi/low range thing backwards. Think about it: dropping it into a lower gear makes it easier for the engine to move the truck. The best possible setting would be 4th or 5th gear, hi range, 4wd. Hardest for the engine to turn the wheels/easiest for the wheels to keep the engine stationary.

4th gear and a 24 inch breaker bar were all we needed to get the crank bolt off my friend's 89 2WD with 278k.


Yep, higher gear is what you want. I use 4th gear, 4H, hubs locked, e-brake on, truck parked on my uphill facing driveway and blocks behind the rear wheels and in front of the front wheels. With the blocks at either end you are letting the truck's weight work for you as the tires try to climb the block, depending on which way you are turning the bolt. I normally use the starter to break mine free, works every time for me, expect the time the 6-point impact socket split on me.

Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: 4Crawler] #714073 04/09/06 03:41 AM
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tucker80 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for the input. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

I was wondering about the gear settings, but by then I was so frustrated and exhausted that I called it a night. I will definitely change things up and try her again in the morning.

Oh and I have been using a 1/2 inch breaker bar, a six point 19mm socket and a hi-lift jack handle.

Thanks again for everything,

If any of you guys are ever in nashville, the first rounds on me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Matt


'90 Pickup 22RE 4.30's, 31 STT's, MossyRock Sliders
'90 2wd xtraCab, getting a heart transplant
'88 4Runner with a thrown rod, waiting in the wings
Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: tucker80] #714074 04/09/06 03:56 AM
Anonymous
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i had that problem recently try using a little heat with a torch but be quick about it,that did it for me.make sur its a crafstman 19mm and a 1/2 breaker, no adapters.do the starter bump trick it takes a few times but dont give up.MAKE SURE TO UNPLUG THE DISTY.

Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! #714075 04/09/06 04:10 AM
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CheviHemi Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
That bolt is usually loc-tited in there. I tried for way too long to get my bolt out. I snapped 2-3/8" ratchets and bent another, broke 1-1/2" socket, and then upgraded to a 3/4" drive 4' long breaker bar and still could not budge it. Ended up taking it to a local shop and took him 15 mins with an impact hammer and torch to free it up...he was running around 200psi of air in the process.

Unfortunatly this is probably the case that you are in and may have to bring it somewhere to get it loosened up. The guy that did it for me charged me $5 for doing it...WELL WORTH IT!!!


Red 1996 S10 Zr2 (Semi-Retired Wheeler)
'84 Toyota on 36's (Project in the Making)
Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: tucker80] #714076 04/09/06 04:41 AM
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wr250 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
i usually the starter trick works well. for stubborn bolts i have a 3/4" IR impact gun. that gets em loose in a hurry.


85 runner -dual cases, headlight harness, 34" TSL's
86 toy buggy getting sas'ed with a 14 bolt rear - 8.5" 10 bolt front (this will go away when i find a 60)
Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: tucker80] #714077 04/09/06 04:59 AM
Anonymous
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I just did it with a 1/2" breaker bar and a 6 point 19mm socket. What I did was to place a piece of plywood in front of my radiator then I wedged a block in between the plywood and the breaker bar to hold that socket on the bolt tight.
Breaker bar was on top of the driver side frame.
Bumped the starter and she broke loose.

I think the key is to use a 6 point socket, wedge it in there and have as little slack as possible ... so that when you hit the starter it has full direct contact with the bolt and can do it's trick.

I tried it earlier with a 3/8" breaker bar and it broke the axis pin of the breaker bar immediately.

Good luck with yours, hope ya get it without too much more grief.

Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: tucker80] #714078 04/09/06 05:20 AM
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Here is what a few of the guys over on PBB have done to get them out after trying a lot of different methods.

Here is the thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427096&highlight=crank+bolt

Here is how one person got his out:

"I had one about a year ago that gave me all kinds of problems. Tried everything. Finally had to grind the washer off.

The washer thats built into the bolt is actually a spring washer and is what causes these to be such a pain in the ass, it's not the threads.

Once you get rid of the spring tension she will back right out with your fingers."

First cut

[Linked Image]

getting it out

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David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA

"Serenity through Sobriety"
Re: Stubborn Crank Bolt!!! [Re: CheviHemi] #714079 04/09/06 06:13 AM
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allochris Offline
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Ended up taking it to a local shop and took him 15 mins with an impact hammer and torch to free it up...he was running around 200psi of air in the process.


Kind of a stupid question actually. If I'm doing the work myself & get the shop to loosen the crank bolt, how can I drive back home with the loosen crank bolt?


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