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Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717248 04/23/06 12:29 AM
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onebadtrooper Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Hey no problem, glad I could help. I've been building a bumper for my brothers amigo.
You can get 5" lift from your rodeo, and it doen't look as goofy with all of the front end hanging down.



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We went to 4Wheelparts Truck Fest

Did they have a swap meet??? the one in dallas had a great swap meet!!! I got 5 brand new procomp rims for $55. They normaly sell for $150 ea. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Nice rodeo btw. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


89 trooper, tera low t-case gears,5.38's, 3" indy4xsus lift3"body lift,safari snorkle,warn winch,custom bull bar,custom rock sliders,warn hubs,35x13.50r15,custom rear bumper trooper pics
Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: onebadtrooper] #717249 04/23/06 03:30 AM
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Isuzukid Offline OP
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nah, no swap meet. Just all of the Vendors were there showcasing the new products.

How can I get 5" of lift from the rodeo? I would love to have that!!!

Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717250 04/28/06 12:31 PM
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rodeoredd Offline
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does that ARB bumper allow you to run a winch down the road? if so, will you have to remove the bumper to install the winch?


'99 Rodeo V6 4x4 w/ 8" lift, 33" TrXus MT
4.77, Aussie Locked rear, 8500lb winch, custom rack, custom winch bumper, ProComp lights, 230,000km
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Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: rodeoredd] #717251 04/28/06 04:59 PM
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Isuzukid Offline OP
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Yes, it does have space for the Winch already cut out, and you would have to remove the bumper for the install, but its only 6 bolts that hold the bumper onto the brackets. Not a big deal, as long as I had the money to get a winch, I wouldn't worry about installing it.

It will be a while before I ever get a winch, Next on my "TO DO" list are front and rear ARB air lockers. I think that will help me more than winches, which you will probably use to pull other people out of trouble than using it for yourself.

Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717252 06/09/06 09:30 PM
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rheteric Offline
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How can I get 5" of lift from the rodeo? I would love to have that!!!


Yes... Inquiring minds what to know your method for getting 5" of useable suspension lift on a 2nd gen Rodeo.


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'00 Rodeo LS 4x4; "K&N" cone filter; S/S Manik Front, Rear, & Nerf; 'Modest' sound system; 1.5" R'ooper lift, 265/70/16 Dunlop RVxt, Skyjacker Hydros, OEM LSD (sans G80 code)
Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717253 06/09/06 10:42 PM
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Bansil Offline
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Yes... Inquiring minds what to know your method for getting 5" of useable suspension lift on a 2nd gen Rodeo.


Ugh <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> crank up your t-bars,it's that simple.You can get 6"
of lift out of the front and get it align'd.
Only problem I've seen is the tie-rods will wear out in about 40k miles.

cv angles look good better than a 1st gen with 1" of lift and ball joint angle is basically neutral.

Do not install front shocks with more travel that factory,you will kill your rack/pinion.

Bansil





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Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Bansil] #717254 06/12/06 07:21 PM
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Smiley Offline
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Do not install front shocks with more travel that factory,you will kill your rack/pinion.

...And no matter what æThe BookÆ says, I can personally attest to the fact that swapping out a Rack and Pinion on a 2nd Gen Rodeo is a major PITA, and takes-up the better part of a weekend... and that's with 2 (sometimes 3 or 4) people working on it, in a very well-equipped shop!


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Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Bansil] #717255 06/13/06 07:04 AM
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holger Offline
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Do not install front shocks with more travel that factory,you will kill your rack/pinion.
Bansil


Bansil, this sounds scary... majority of 2 gen Rodeo owners use Ranchos 99136 upfront that have about 1.5" more downtravel than stock shocks. Matt also sells them as Rodeo/Amigo application. Do you mean that this is really a wrong application ?

Does this also mean that we must absolutely NOT to flip the BJs ?


Oleg
Axiom 4WD 2004: OME shocks, 32" BFG Mudders, RockSliderz, OME929+2" spacers, Stinkyfab bent RE rear links, front ARB locker, rear No-Slip locker, DOR front axle lowering kit, custom middle section skid plate, IronMan torsion bars.
Deceased Rodeo'02 4WD.
Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717256 06/13/06 10:31 AM
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Bansil Offline
Body Damage is Cool
The do not install longer shocks is totally my opinion only.
The stock shocks hold the lower control arm "up" 3/4" at the mounting point.Thus the shock acts as a limit strap for droop.

I have seen it happen, also why use a longer shock???????in a fixed location like the front of our ifs if you add a longer shock-------->say 3" longer like alot of folks do because they have a 3" lift................then guess what??????----------->you just lost 3" of up travel.

The front suspension on 2nd gens(an others) has droop and compression stops.The range of motion is ~9" so if shock length is changed to say a 3" longer shock,the suspension will still only operate in the stock range of motion.So it will droop almost the same~~3/4"more til the upper control arm bends the upper stop bracket and then binds the rack if the drooped tire is turned hard to the inside.
but you will loose 3" of up travel because the shock will bottom it self internally before the lower bump stop comes into play.

Yes you can flip the upper balljoint,I only recommend it for use with stock lenght shocks,my opinion and .02.
Flipping allows~3/8 more droop but several degrees of camber fix,I was able to get more than 1" more alignable crank out of it.

Bansil





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Re: Installing ARB Bumper today on 2nd Gen Rodeo....Please Help!!! [Re: Isuzukid] #717257 06/13/06 03:04 PM
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2000Trooper Offline
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and you would have to remove the bumper for the install


I thought the same thing, since the instructions call for you mounting the winch and then installing the bull bar with he winch installed.

When I mounted my winch, I squeezed the winch in from the bottom and held it up while I attached the two top bolts. It was a one-man operation so there was some struggling to do. But it saved me the hassle of removing the bumper and having to lift the bumper and the winch together. That winch is heavy!

Of course it was a trooper, so I donÆt know how much space you have on the rodeos.

You are correct on the lockers, they will help you out more then a winch. But a winch will get you out of trouble when those lockers make you take the harder lines <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Jaime
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