Thanks. No I didn't think you were being biased or prejudice I just through that out there as a general comment because we, the club, run into it constantly. That is until they can't make the pbstacles and we walk right up them then their jaws normally hit the ground. In all fairness if I put the same amount of money in my Rubi/Unlimited that I have in the Passport I don't think that there would be any comparision, but you take a bone stock TJ (non rubicon model) and a bone stock Passport you would be surprised how alike they are. I've seen each one out do the other in certain situations.