I too like the dual setup option. Someday my wife might hit that lotto finally <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I'll give my friend John a call tommarrow and tell him to talk to Chris if T-G sales doesn't call him first. I fell bad cause money is usually tight for him and he likes to build his own mods from steel he buys. He has built his own shackles, rock rails, front and rear bumpers. He's been looking for a single T-case member and thought John had hooked him up. He just got paid and had a couple of franklin's burning a hole in his pocket for some new Toyota parts and felt T-G had the best deal with the 3/8" steel. Thanks for everyone's advice and experience of what works best so far.