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Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
#720513
05/02/06 06:23 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 76
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Does anyone know if the built in auto tranny cooler uses all of the factory rad or just a section of it? I bought a hayden 404 tranny cooler and would like to install it, by-passing the factory in rad one. Is this a good idea, or should I install the Hayden one in-line with the factory one? Oh yeah, was checking out the auxillary cooler install in the tech section and noticed it was being installed in a 3.4L vehichle. Is the return line to the tranny on my 85 Runner on the passenger side as well? Thanks,
Tye
1985 Toyota $Runner - Locked front and rear, Chevy's in the rear and rears up front, 36" Iroks, blah, blah, blah........ 1993 Nissan Pathy 2002 Yamaha Wolverine
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: TyzToyz]
#720514
05/02/06 06:56 PM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
Web Wheeler
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All the A/T cooler consists of is a few loops of small copper tubing inside the lower radiator tank.
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: 4Crawler]
#720515
05/02/06 07:17 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 76
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Perfect, thanks Roger! So there really isn't a problem with by-passing the stock cooler if you are going to be replacing it with a larger one. Inlet on the drivers side and outlet on the passenger side though right?
Tye
1985 Toyota $Runner - Locked front and rear, Chevy's in the rear and rears up front, 36" Iroks, blah, blah, blah........ 1993 Nissan Pathy 2002 Yamaha Wolverine
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: TyzToyz]
#720516
05/03/06 01:02 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,686
Body Damage is Cool
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Couldn't you use both, and have the added capacity?
85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: Staceman]
#720517
05/03/06 02:30 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,230
Roll Me Over
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Couldn't you use both, and have the added capacity? You sure could but put the aftermarket cooler on the discharge of the radiator cooler. The aftermarket cooler is going to cool the fluid more then the radiator cooler will, so you do not want to send the fluid into the radiator to be heated up.
David Fritzsche 1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods 04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig Roseville, CA
"Serenity through Sobriety"
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: TyzToyz]
#720518
05/03/06 03:06 AM
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 297
Mudrunner
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I have the Auto as well, and I have been wondering what the little radiator is coming from the tranny. It is maybe 4 x 6 inches and on teh passnger side of the tranny. Is that a seperate cooler for the transfer case?
Sold Truck: 89 DLX extra cab 4x4 22re Automatic/ New truck 97 T100 4x4 auto Sr5
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: trythis]
#720519
05/03/06 05:58 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 76
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Radiators and I do not get along very well, or at least in my 86 5 spd. One summer I went through 3 rads and I cannot imagine the tranny working very well with coolant in there. So I want to eliminate that possibility and bypass the stock system all togeather. The 4Runner that I am building is quite a bit larger than my truck was, so mabey it will not be a problem any more. Thanks all,
Tye
1985 Toyota $Runner - Locked front and rear, Chevy's in the rear and rears up front, 36" Iroks, blah, blah, blah........ 1993 Nissan Pathy 2002 Yamaha Wolverine
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: trythis]
#720520
05/03/06 06:15 AM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,520
Body Damage is Cool
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I have the Auto as well, and I have been wondering what the little radiator is coming from the tranny. It is maybe 4 x 6 inches and on teh passnger side of the tranny. Is that a seperate cooler for the transfer case? Yup, tcase cooler.
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: TyzToyz]
#720521
05/03/06 01:00 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,878
Body Damage is Cool
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I broke an old Taurus radiator apart one day just to see the AFT cooler. It was a tube heat exchanger about 2" diameter and 12" long (the coolant flows though the middle and surrounds the outside). It looked like it could quickly cool the ATF down to the coolant temp. Only thing is the coolant temp may be 190F (a cooler t-stat would help that). I was considering removing mine from the loop (I'm adding these right now pics ) But I'm thinking in cold weather the radiator loop may actually help warm the ATF to keep it from over cooling and resricting flow. If you do remove it (or even if you don't) I'd use one or two of these self regulating coolers: http://www.importperformancetrans.com/coolers.shtml especially in a cold climate.
93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift, Alcan springs, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" BL, 1.5" BJ spacers, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.
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Re: Auto tranny and the built in rad cooler
[Re: TyzToyz]
#720522
05/03/06 02:13 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 312
Mudrunner
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Hayden 679HD installI also used the 679 cooler and routed "out" line from radiator to the Hayden and then back to tranny. If you were looking to bypass radiator I wouldn't be concerned if you step to the nearly sq. ft. 679. I also installed a coolant sensor on OUT line of transmission so I can see the high temp fluid reaches in transmission... rest assured, the 679 does the job intended (imagine 22RE motorhome climbing mountains in summer).
'87 22RE
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