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 Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
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05/03/06 05:22 PM
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I need to do a tranny swap in my '94 Trooper and it looks like it could be a pain compared to most trucks... Surely someone here has dropped their tranny for a clutch or something, any tips, tricks etc? What can I expect time-wise?
Also, anyone have a Helms manual that you'd be willing to scan a few pages from?
Any help is appreciated...
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 Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: gotdurt]
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05/03/06 06:33 PM
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It's not rocket science. Unbolt everything that is holding it in and drop it. Just like almost every other transmission out there.
Good Luck,
Michael
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: mlclark]
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05/03/06 09:01 PM
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I've dropped my fair share of truck transmissions, and this is much more compact than any I've dealt with... the tough part is getting to the bolts that secure the bell housing to the block... unless there is a cover on the body (from the interior), it looks like I'll have to drop the axle and lower the motor for access...
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: gotdurt]
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05/03/06 09:05 PM
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It is tight access, but you can get a better shot at it by simply unbolting the body tub and lifting it off.
Seriously, though, pull the tranny crossmember with the tranny supported by a jack and tilt the drivetrain up or down to allow better access to the bolts. I usually tilt it down in back until the engine is almost kissing the firewall, and then go in to those bolts over the top of the tranny with long extensions, from the rear.
Randii
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: mlclark]
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05/03/06 09:17 PM
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Just like almost every other transmission out there. Well no, not really. Most transfer cases can be removed. A bunch of belhousings can be removed. This is more or less a big conglomeration that's got to stay together. I'd recommend a tranny jack as it's extremely heavy and awkward becasue of the t-case. Oh, unless you are replacing the slave cylinder don't take the banjo fitting off of it. If you do you'll just have to bleed the clutch. Other than that I'd say it's about the same as any other tranny. With a buddy and air tools you can have it in the floor late Friday night. Joe
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
98 Passport 33's, Supercharged, Calmini Bumper, rockbars, diff drops, Teralows, 4.77's, Aussie and ARB lockers, Safari snorkel, Optima red top.
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: Bigpoppax2]
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05/03/06 09:46 PM
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don't forget the special throwout bearing that locks into the pressure plate on the 3.2L. If you don't first release this, the tranny will slide just a few inches and then seem like its hung.
-Rob
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 Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: gotdurt]
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05/03/06 09:55 PM
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I've done it.
First you will spend one long-ass day doing this. I understand now why they charge $1200-$1400 to do a clutch in this vehicle. If you get alower estimate you will be charged this much in the end. It took me 11 hours take 2 hours for lunch and a much needed beer break and to have the flywheel resurfaced. Second get some different colored spray paint to color code all the wire connections going into this tranny/transfercase. There are lots of them and they all look the same. Get yourself a tranny jack because this combo is heavy! There are lots of exhaust pieces, cross members and skid plates to remove and install. Take a pic of everything before you start, I had an extra skid plat that I couldn't figure out how it went bak on. I had to crawl under another trooper to find out. Don't forget a rear engine oil seal, I replaced mine when I saw it was leaking and cut down a quart of oil usage later on. Other than that it's a typical tranny removal. A real beyotch!
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: randii]
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05/03/06 10:03 PM
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It is tight access, but you can get a better shot at it by simply unbolting the body tub and lifting it off.
Seriously, though, pull the tranny crossmember with the tranny supported by a jack and tilt the drivetrain up or down to allow better access to the bolts. I usually tilt it down in back until the engine is almost kissing the firewall, and then go in to those bolts over the top of the tranny with long extensions, from the rear.
Randii Haha, I was thinking now would be a good time to do a body lift... So letting the motor tilt under the weight of the tranny is enough to get to the bolts? I mean, the motor is already almost kissing the firewall, LOL! How'd you keep the motor tilted while you work the trans off? The truck isn't here at the house, so I can't look to confirm, but it looked like the oil pan might obstruct the lower bolts. Guessing this isn't an issue? The reason I'm considering all of this is that I'm debating having it done @ $500 labor; I just don't have the time that I used to, and it's not like my old F-150 where I can have it in and out in an afternoon... I just don't want to go to pulling, only to have to stop in the middle and call the shop...
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
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05/03/06 10:06 PM
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I've done it.
First you will spend one long-ass day doing this. I understand now why they charge $1200-$1400 to do a clutch in this vehicle. If you get alower estimate you will be charged this much in the end. It took me 11 hours take 2 hours for lunch and a much needed beer break and to have the flywheel resurfaced. Second get some different colored spray paint to color code all the wire connections going into this tranny/transfercase. There are lots of them and they all look the same. Get yourself a tranny jack because this combo is heavy! There are lots of exhaust pieces, cross members and skid plates to remove and install. Take a pic of everything before you start, I had an extra skid plat that I couldn't figure out how it went bak on. I had to crawl under another trooper to find out. Don't forget a rear engine oil seal, I replaced mine when I saw it was leaking and cut down a quart of oil usage later on. Other than that it's a typical tranny removal. A real beyotch! How'd you get to the bell housing bolts?
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Re: Has anyone pulled a Gen2 Trooper 5spd tranny?
[Re: RobG]
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05/03/06 10:09 PM
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don't forget the special throwout bearing that locks into the pressure plate on the 3.2L. If you don't first release this, the tranny will slide just a few inches and then seem like its hung.
-Rob How do you do this?
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