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Formula for final compression ratio #728286 06/01/06 06:07 PM
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conner Offline OP
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Anyone have the basic formula for determining final compression ratio when engine is under full boost? I am not looking for exact figures with altitude corrections etc. Just ballpark basics.
Thanks Conner


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88 Montero 2.6L auto, manual hubs, cooling fan conversion gps,recurved distributor,LSD Diff.
Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: conner] #728287 06/01/06 06:36 PM
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((boost psi / 14.7) + 1) x motor compression = effective compression.

I take no credit for this - just came accross it. Does it look right? I'd guess motor compression = static compression? Not sure...


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Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: DirtyOldTown] #728288 06/01/06 06:44 PM
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Here's a calculator that includes altitude correction - just plug in the numbers:

Calculator

Frank


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Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: FrankR] #728289 06/01/06 08:06 PM
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conner Offline OP
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Thanks Frank: I had seen that and used it. However i am not convinced of its accuracy. thats why i want the formula to work out myself.


Over the hill but still climbing.
88 Montero 2.6L auto, manual hubs, cooling fan conversion gps,recurved distributor,LSD Diff.
Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: DirtyOldTown] #728290 06/01/06 08:09 PM
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conner Offline OP
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Thanks DOT. Is something missing from that formula? I am having a problem making it work.
Conner


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88 Montero 2.6L auto, manual hubs, cooling fan conversion gps,recurved distributor,LSD Diff.
Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: conner] #728291 06/01/06 08:33 PM
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DirtyOldTown Offline
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I got it to work (I think), as I came up with the same numbers as the calculator Frank posted. I put in the following:

8.5 : 1 static compression ratio
20 PSI boost
0 ft. altitude

So pretty much, ((20/14.7) + 1) x 8.5
((1.3605) + 1) x 8.5
2.3605 x 8.5 = 20.06
20.06 : 1

Again, I'm not sure if this is correct but it came up the same as the calculator.


'91 LWB, 31x10.5s, KYBs, A/T "I look like Robert De Niro, I drive a Mitsubishi Pajero" - Billy Bragg (not the original lyrics, but that's how he sang it when I saw him in Dublin in '04)
Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: conner] #728292 06/01/06 11:30 PM
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FrankR Offline
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Conner -

Now just what the heck are you up to? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Frank


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Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: FrankR] #728293 06/02/06 12:47 PM
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conner Offline OP
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Frank: this is a project that i have been working with my son-in-law on for some time now. Without going into details, this is a compact stationary engine used for a specific purpose that must produce a lot of ponies at specific times. This is a one of a kind implement in which he has applied for a patent . We are going to install a positive displacement blower which is also unique and basically modified for this application. Just want to be sure i am dealing with facts so that we can determine proper static compression, drive pulley diameter etc.
Conner


Over the hill but still climbing.
88 Montero 2.6L auto, manual hubs, cooling fan conversion gps,recurved distributor,LSD Diff.
Re: Formula for final compression ratio [Re: conner] #728294 06/02/06 01:52 PM
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FrankR Offline
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Sounds interesting - I'd like to see the details when it's done.

Frank


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