This response is so typical! Reminds me of the guys that run 35" tires on their rig with a dana 35 axle! Yep, they say they have run 35" tires on there rig with the dana 35 without any problems! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Berkley, you're in the same catagory as those guys! Funny thing was, when I read your response here, I just had read this post on another site

"I tweaked the unibody on my ZJ in Moab this weekend. I came down backward off a rock ledge and I now have a large 3/4" door gap between the two passenger side doors. My ZJ is on long arms and 35s. I took it in to SVE Autobody in Broomfield that has a unibody frame jig and they wouldn't even look at it because of the size and the suspension modifications."

Unibodies are commonly damaged when rockcrawling ... all the time; it's not rare! The guy is building a rockcrwler; why not give him the best recommendations. Let's leave the "what you purchased" bias behind us. Berkley, you have to wheel 'em, to break 'em! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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Even though I love my ZJ's and XJ's, I have to go with fred on this one. I wheel my YJ just as hard or harder than my friend with a ZJ. His unibody is cracked and bent in at least 3 places and he only has ~130 on it. My YJ has ~200 and it's frame is in good shape and has a lot less problems than his.

Fred, lumping me in with guys who run 35" tires on a Dana 35? You hurt my feelings! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

You guys misunderstand or misquote everything I said. I stand by it all. I've always been honest about breaking my 35 with only 31" tires... that's why at least a 44. I wouldn't run 35, rather 33 tires. I've wheeled lots and on very rough stuff. I don't abuse the Jeep, but I don't shy away from anything. If the guy wants a ZJ, fine! If a Wrangler is OK, better! Me... I need a Jeep that seats five and can get me to work everyday.

Edited a bit after a <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />. Rough day... I shouldn't have read the Wire before it kicked in! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

IF you're really looking into building a ZJ or WJ that will fit 35's and is up for rockcrawling you should check out mallcrawlin.com, just beware as they are kind of like the pirate4x4.com site but for Grand Cherokees so they don't take kindly to noobs or noob questions, BUT you WILL find alot of usefull information. As many have stated earlier on this thread there are probably better rigs out there for what you're trying to do but IF you are really set on getting a Grand Cherokee for this you might as well build it right. And of course doing that requires A-LOT of time and or A-LOT of $$$$ but if the end result is getting something you like and makes you happen then it's probably worth it. Below is a pic of a ZJ rolling on 38's on DANA 60's and coil overs and this is probably a mid-range "extreme rig" compared to some of the other "extreme rigs" some people are running on this site...

Enjoy,
Fred R.

Good advice, Fred R. ! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />