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coolant---optimal mix?
#736826
07/11/06 05:52 PM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 598
OP
Rock Warrior
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I'm due to change out coolant. I've read threads stating that your engine will get better cooling running "water wetter" and higher ratio or water to coolant,ie, 60/40.
The mgr at Jiffy Lube says the opposite is true---they say to run their premier mix of 80/20, coolant/ water, for optimal cooling. Says high ratio of water will just boil quicker.
What should I do?
'99 Trooper, ARBs, 4.77s, ARB bullbar, Warn M8000 w/Amsteel, OME 912s w/2.5" spacers, Rancho 9000xs, K&N/Magnaflow, 33" Kumho MT's, Aisins, boulder bars, Indy 4X brake lines, diff drop, Flexalite
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: ducktrooper]
#736827
07/11/06 07:03 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 134
Wheeler
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50/50 i think is considered optimal for all around purposes and is available in premixed containers everywhere. the 99 owners manual states to stay between 20 to 60%. lower than 20% antifreeze may lose anticorrosion effects (and lube for water pump) and over 60% loses cooling ability. also states to use whatever ratio is needed to protect to -33F and suggests refill/topping off when needed with 50/50.
personally, i keep it at 50/50 and use prestone, but may change to the more environmentally friendly type next time.
many go the extra step and use distilled water.
'99 Trooper, 912's '89 Trooper RS, 2.6
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: ducktrooper]
#736828
07/12/06 02:01 AM
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Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 898
Rock Warrior
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Whatever type of anti-freeze you buy, read the jug that it comes in. It will tell you what percentage to mix for what temperature range you normally operate in. Generally, a 50/50 is perfectly fine for most environments.
1995 Trooper LS auto 3.2 DOHC /w SOHC intake 1989 Trooper 2.6 auto 1989 I-Mark RS DOHC 1.6 1991 Stylus XS DOHC 1.8
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: litnin]
#736829
07/12/06 02:14 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 2,437
Body Damage is Cool
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The mgr at Jiffy Lube says the opposite is true---they say to run their premier mix of 80/20, coolant/ water, for optimal cooling. Sounds more like a way to optimize their profit. Ask him to show you some written research that proves it. Otherwise stay with the 50/50.
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: ducktrooper]
#736830
07/12/06 02:41 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,016
Isuzu Moderator
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A higher concentration of coolant vs water is actually less able to keep your engine temp down. I'd go back to Jiffy Lube and ask the manager what is so special about their antifreeze that makes it work differently than all the others. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I'd stay 50/50.
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: ducktrooper]
#736831
07/13/06 03:45 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 899
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There's nothing special about antifreeze...it's just a solute (spelling?). Anything dissovled it water will lower the freezing point and elevate the boiling point. Ethylene glycol is used because it's mostly compatible and non-corrosive with the metals, rubber seals/hoses, gaskets, etc. used in engines. You could use sugar or salt...but I doubt your cooling system would last. 80/20 sounds like too much solute (why does that sound wrong?...it's late) and not enough solvent. At what point does it become too much? Not sure...
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: Fujisawa_Rob]
#736832
07/13/06 05:50 AM
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Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 898
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There's nothing special about antifreeze...it's just a solute (spelling?). Anything dissovled it water will lower the freezing point and elevate the boiling point. Ethylene glycol is used because it's mostly compatible and non-corrosive with the metals, rubber seals/hoses, gaskets, etc. used in engines. You could use sugar or salt...but I doubt your cooling system would last. 80/20 sounds like too much solute (why does that sound wrong?...it's late) and not enough solvent. At what point does it become too much? Not sure... A solute "can" be correct. A solute is generally a component of a solution in lesser quantities than the rest of the components that make up the solution.
1995 Trooper LS auto 3.2 DOHC /w SOHC intake 1989 Trooper 2.6 auto 1989 I-Mark RS DOHC 1.6 1991 Stylus XS DOHC 1.8
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: zKnightWhoSaysNi]
#736834
07/14/06 10:51 PM
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Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 681
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many go the extra step and use distilled water. ...not to change the subject, it's sorta relevant... what might be the adverse effects on using NOT distilled? I'm thinkin' of using distilled next flush/fill, bcuz I've noticed what appears to be some kinda "salt" floating around in the reservoir. I filtered it through a coffee filter, and when dry, it's like grayish talcum powder. Wonder if this is something precipitating from the well water (with water softener), of if it's like Alum Oxide from the aluminum of the head ? Anybody else seen this ? p.s. I'm running 50/50 ...
C/YA! Jeff '88 Trooper 2DR LWB 4ZE1 5SP bone stock DD
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Re: coolant---optimal mix?
[Re: Troopersphere]
#736835
07/15/06 02:19 AM
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Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 898
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many go the extra step and use distilled water. ...not to change the subject, it's sorta relevant... what might be the adverse effects on using NOT distilled? I'm thinkin' of using distilled next flush/fill, bcuz I've noticed what appears to be some kinda "salt" floating around in the reservoir. I filtered it through a coffee filter, and when dry, it's like grayish talcum powder. Wonder if this is something precipitating from the well water (with water softener), of if it's like Alum Oxide from the aluminum of the head ? Anybody else seen this ? p.s. I'm running 50/50 ... That's most likely calcium... and that's exactly why you should use distilled water. It plugs up the rows and passages in the radiator. Minerals in regular tap water do all kinds of funny stuff. They aid in corrosion, which anti-freeze has inhibitors for, but it can only do so much. They also increase the boiling and freezing point of the water. Not enough to worry about, but they do. Nothing wrong with using tap water, you just need to do coolant changes and flushes a little more often than you would with distilled water.
1995 Trooper LS auto 3.2 DOHC /w SOHC intake 1989 Trooper 2.6 auto 1989 I-Mark RS DOHC 1.6 1991 Stylus XS DOHC 1.8
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