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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: DamKia] #740333 11/07/06 12:00 AM
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georgek Offline
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Not yet...... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

I hope that next week will have been finished the front one <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: georgek] #740334 11/08/06 02:10 AM
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sportagebandit Offline
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has anyone tried fabbing or interested in fabbing a spool for the kia rear???


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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: sportagebandit] #740335 11/08/06 06:44 PM
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logansportage Offline
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Lincoln locker makes a great spool for the Sportage <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: logansportage] #740336 11/08/06 11:48 PM
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sportagebandit Offline
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bad experiences with welded diffs


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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: DamKia] #740337 11/10/06 08:11 AM
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DamKia Offline
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I have a guy that is interested and able to fabricate the internal actuator mechanism if I can either get a hold of one of the diffs (happy to buy it) or get detailed drawings of the actuator ring. There is a company the already makes the actuators. They will need to be slightly modified, or the "profile" of your actuator ring changed to suit their actuator profile. Same one as the above description, sits on a saddle over the bearing cap bolts.

Presently the Greek design uses a grove in the ring with a blade on the actuator. The Australian diffs use a blade on the ring with a groove in the actuator. (ie other way up)

If we could get some technical agreement here there is the possibility that your diffs would not need an externally mounted actuator. This would lead to less chance of breakage, and no critical alignment issues with the actuator through the case. All that would be needed would be a non critical air line access hole in the case. Also means you don't have to ship the entire third member (important for overseas sales), all you need to ship is the diff center and the actuator.

Even if you feel that there is no way you can change the design, this guy is prepared to make actuators to suit the "Greek profile". Just need the drawings and dimensions.

Either way it is a win.

This actuator could be used on all your Greek made locking diffs that you sell as a more technically "elegant" solution to actuating it. Less time consuming to fit, less critical to align, and simpler solution overall.


Yes I am looking to buy one front and one rear when they are available.... Might be able to get a couple of other sales in Australia too. (3 that I know of already)


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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: DamKia] #740338 11/14/06 05:59 PM
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Everet Offline
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Was wondering if anyone in the USA has thought about helping out on the Greek Locker? I know the guy is only working on it part time but it has been 3.5 months since the first posting. Maybe there is too much little kid in me...I WANT IT NOW!!!!
I'm looking in to making a PHANTOM GRIP type LSD. Very cheap and easy to install but has its limitations. I'm doing this because I'm cheap and I can't find lsd's for my 96. For my application, it sounds like it will work for me. The way my luck goes though, the greek locker will be available about half way thru my project.
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: Everet] #740339 11/14/06 07:42 PM
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georgek Offline
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The guy is working full time making the lockers for my KIA (and not only). The lockers exist and run in two KIA without any problem. The only limitation for overseas shipments is that with the existing actuators, is necessary to be delivered together with the third member, that means that the transportation cost is high. We expect from Garyinoz to send to us a couple of actuators which could be fit inside the diff group. This would help a lot because the installation would be much easier and the shipment cost much lower.
I am the same anxious with you!!

Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: georgek] #740340 11/15/06 03:11 AM
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DamKia Offline
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Updating everyone: yes we do have some actuators here, but they are a part of a "patented design ( http://www.tjm.com.au/default.aspx?tabid=93 ) although not shown in their diagrams, so may be difficult to buy separately in any quantity. ~AUD$120 or so so I have been reliably informed.

There are other cheaper ISO standardised actuators that may do the job just as well for ~AUD$80, available online.

George has been emailed with the research...


2002 Sporty , Ironman 2.5" spring, 2" body, 15 x 7 ROH wheels, K&N, 15 x 10.5 Simex Centipedes, Powerchip 91.

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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: DamKia] #740341 01/24/07 02:01 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
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just figured i would bump this, to see if there is any progress?


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Re: Greek made locker for the KIA... [Re: DEFBOY35] #740342 01/25/07 08:32 AM
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georgek Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Here we are!!

Following the comments of Gary was done a lot of brainstorming in order to be improved the actuator.
At the following photos you can see the pneumatic actuator whis is now placed inside the housing of the diff.

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The prototype at the photos is not from KIA. It runs perfect so the next one will be for KIA (my KIA)with the same principle.
With this principle of actuating the locking of the diff there are a lot of advantages.

1)There are not any parts outside the housing.
2)The alignment of the actuator is fixed from the bolts

but the most important is:

It is not necessary the third member to be delivered together with the locker. So the overseas shipment is now much easier and the shipment cost much lower!!!

More news soon!! Keep in touch!!

Last edited by georgek; 01/25/07 11:03 AM.
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