I vote yes.

So.. having a kid sit in the rear with no seat and no seat belt would be safer? What about the sidefacing seats in the extended cab pick ups? Are they illegal now too?

I am a ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-d man!

Kinda like Russian roulette with 1 bullet is safer than it is with 2 bullets. It's still not a great idea.

If your point is that government is butting in too much, trying to make our world too safe, I'll agree wholeheartedly.

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If it came OEM it's not illegal AKA "Grandfathered" . When California passed the seat belt law I got pulled over at least three time in my 67 Camaro before cops got a clue there was only a lapbelt. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Two of the times it was Military police.

It's $270 fine and a point on your licence for not having your kid buckled up.

Around here, if you get caught not strapping the kids in properly, they take your kids away... but they know how evil my kids are and avoid pulling me over. Hell, I could strap the 3 year old to the front grill and call him Emblem, cops arent going to touch him... they have seen the Omen movies.. they know better!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

That sucks. The seats I want to put in have lap belts only and they are attached to the removable frames. Dagbernit...

I guess I'll have to find a way to make them rear facing. Any law against that? What if I have Oregon plates, do you think the coppers will harass me?

Thanks for the opinions...

Just a few days ago I saw dad had all four kids in 5 peice safety harness in a old restored Land Rover.

I did a search for "3rd row seats" on yahoo and the first site to pop up was... http://www.jatdesign.net/

I put some rear facing jumpseats in my 90 Montero. I used the jumpseats from a Ford Ranger. They mounted nicely in preexisting tapped holes under the carpet. I actually mounted a quarter inch thick iron plate to the floor using those mounts, then mounted the seats to the plate.

I can e-mail you some pics if you like.

Hahaha!! My parents owned a '68 when I was a kid. They were great fun, at the time, and a way to split up my sisters and me in the car. I thought all the seats had lap belts though? That was one great hunk of metal. My dad made the mistake of towing it on a flatbed trailer behind a SWB F150 4X4 back about 1995 or so. The thing fishtailed and the wagon went rolloing down an embankment. The trailer endup rolling a couple of times but was savagable. The truck luckily did not roll, only receiving large dents along the side where the trailer bashed back and forth. We had to get a tow truck to pull the 4X4 back up he embankment again but dad was able to drive it home after. Unfortunately, the beloved wagon was scrap metal. I think he got a few hundred dollars at the local scrap yard, which I'm sure helped replace the undies he probably soiled. I think he learned a lesson from that one, I sure did.

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