Damn Aaron, that second one does look really heavy. Looks like you could make your own trails with that thing. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Retractable lights eh? Wondering how you could set that up.

I'd go with the first one, but taper off the ends of the bumper. I'm probably going to go with something like that minus the push bar part, don't think I can get a hold of plate that thick, by the way, how thick are those verticle push bar plates drawn?

I'll try to find a pic of the type I want to build.

'84 PU low & slow
Central Valley Crawlers