it is off topic, you loser <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />

I talked to the machinist and he said his boss would allow for them to make me another driveshaft at no charge but they wouldn't pay for my gas tank.

Herrrree we go... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I asked to speak with his manager and he said he'd give him the message to call me. I asked when I would hear from his boss and he said he wasn't sure. I plan on calling at the end of the day tomorrow.

I feel I'm entitled to the tow charge, the driveshaft, and any damage their malfunctioning part may have caused.

Am I wrong?

He tried to say to me that it was my fault because I had them take out the carrier bearing and make me a 1-piece and that was why it broke. It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that he didn't balance it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Well... if it wasn't safe then why would you do it?

After I talk to his boss/the owner and he doesn't oblige (which he won't) I'm going to have my lawyer friend speak with them.

...At least I don't have a truck to drive right now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />

I definetly think that you deserve complete compensation for the damage done. He took on the task and delivered the product in poor form.

Had a shop do an estimate for me yesterday afternoon.. the skid plate and the tank both took on a pretty good dent, but the gas tank isn't actually leaking.
Garage said it's the sending unit.

Sending unit + gasket, bolts, etc = $149
2-3 Hours labor @ 50/hour = $150
Driveshaft = *shrug* whatever
Ujoints = I don't remember.... like 50 bucks


I think I'd be willing to cut them some slack with the tank as long as the tank doesn't take on a HUGE cut in capacity. I'm sure it's not much at all.

Should I have them build me another 1-piece or should I have them build me a 2-piece like stock?

I'm pretty nervous about the 1piece now; I'm fairly certain they wouldn't be willing to do it a 3rd time for free if something screws up again. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Just got off the phone with them again, talked to the owner this time.

He said they will stand behind the driveshaft but will not pay for any of the damages. I told him basically that didn't cut it for me so he said they wouldn't cash my check for the work they did but they're not paying for anything more because the factory doesn't use a 1-piece they use a 2-piece.

I told him that when his employee handed me a driveshaft that was not balanced they assumed the responsibility of the fact that there may be a problem with the product I was given.
He responded saying that his shop foreman didn't have enough time to balance it.
I said I shouldn't have been given an incomplete product, then.

This is a mess. *calling lawyer now

also: pardon my incessant ranting this thread is also a way for me to document what's going on. I just get the added bonus of you all helping me out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Whatever ya do- just watch what you saw.

Friend back home has a short fuse, and after the tractor mechanic boogered up the hydraulics on his machine, he said 'If you don't fix this within the next day, I'll burn this place to the damn ground'...this being said in front of customers and other employees.

Well...two days later, shop still has the tractor, and it burns down the third night, with the tractor inside. Police questioned my buddy with eyewitness testimony, etc.

Turns out the owner of the shop was messin' around with another guy's wife, and the guy burnt the shop down after he found out who it was. At least my buddy got a new tractor out of the deal.

>>>*My Daddy told me this one when I was a very young man:

"One failure left uncorrected is usually equal to a thousand successes."

That's a simple statement that has stuck in my head for some 40 odd years.

From what you post I would say they should have just fixed it with an apology. There is no shame in making a mistake, everyone does from time to time (Except for me..*I get to blame stuff like that on my crew..*LOL**)

Good luck, this sounds like an easy one to win....*EB

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So what you're saying is.. If I make any personal threats to him I have to make sure that I'm the only one that would be carrying them through? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

I have def. been holding my tongue and making sure I'm calm before I call, every time. I have a short fuse sometimes too and I realize it. I also know that it helps absolutely nothing to be angry at them. In the same respect: if my customers come to me b*tchin and carrying on then I don't want to help them either. ;o]



EB: I like that
Tnx mr EB, senior.

I totally had faith in their work, and I've seen the stuff they've produced before. I'm not judging them really on this one mistake but I just want them to (like you said) admit the mistake and take responsibility for it.

I can't guarantee that I'd go back there for more work again but I wouldn't say that they produce shotty parts just because what's happened. "They're only human.. people make mistakes, etc"

Thanks EB


lawyer friend told me to write up a fairly detailed timeline so if you guys are really that interested.. feel free to check it out. it's 3 pages.

Exactly, or make sure the dude's single, hain't screwed no one else, or no one else's wife.

I had to go through Lemon Law with Ford back in 2001. That wasn't fun. Good luck.

ROA: <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
So what you're saying is.. If I make any personal threats to him I have to make sure that I'm the only one that would be carrying them through? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Exactly, or make sure the dude's single, hain't screwed no one else, or no one else's wife.
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>>>*"Coupla years back there was this crusty old coot down the street, ran a tuneup shop.

He was actually pretty good except he kept this jug of Jack in his office and by around 2 in the afternoon he was best off not talking to anyone at all, or trying to do any work.

One day one of his customers came in, yelling about a job he did that messed up, stalled on the freeway, on and on. I knew the customer, too, wouldn't work for him because he seemed to have a black cloud that followed him and he hated everybody and everything.

The situation deteriorated from words to throwing things, the old coot dragged out his .357 Magnum and fired one off at the guy, lucky he was drunk so he missed. The customer understood quickly that this wasn't good at all and took off running with the old coot hot on his tail, blazing away. He stopped once to catch his breath and reload, then took off after him again. He did manage to hit one parked car and a telephone pole, lord knows where the rest of the rounds went. That mess went on for over 15 minutes. I could hear the noise but no way was I going out there.

Out of ammo, he went back to his shop and his jug of Jack and the cops showed up to "discuss" the situation. End of that shop, though. The guy got a long term government vacation.

I did see the customer one time after that, he stopped in to ask me some questions about his truck.

*Smiling! *Called me, "Sir"...heehee.

Guess he thought I was an old coot, too..which I am but I don't have any booze around, and the guns are at home.

Best to always approach a problem with a calm and reasonable voice and be willing to negotiate, it works best....*EB