Yeah but on my 3VZE how would a valve get that far out of adjustment considering I have valve shims? I can understand a little noise But it is exactly a Loud Chattering noise. IM sure ill get it fixed $1000 or so later. Freekin pissin me off. Any other thoughts or ideas welcome..before I go insane <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />