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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: StockRaider] #763694 01/29/08 04:55 PM
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Maybe but all the people inside are going to puke all over the place. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: Smiley] #763695 01/29/08 05:06 PM
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Can someone loan me a smiley that's flipping the middle finger please?

I'm not up for a trip to Central Ohio right now -- would a photograph do?

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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LOL Just send that straight over to Rich. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: stony-man] #763696 01/29/08 05:10 PM
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DAAAAAAANG that pic of whats her legs is nice! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: cmonty72] #763697 01/30/08 08:47 AM
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My 2 cents worth.

The engines produce thrust which propels the plane forwards (every action has a equal and opposite reaction). Therefore the ONLY answer is the plane will push itself off the conveyor belt, IRRESPECTIVE of the conveyor belt and tire speed of the aircraft. Conveyor belt speed is irrelevant.

The thrust developed by the engines will only provide lift to the immediately adjacent areas in the wash of the engine (if they are present), ie the airflow at the tip of the wing is minuscule from the engine in relation to the wing root area (wing mounted engines) or in some aircraft, simply the area adjacent to the engine. The lift is generated by the engines pushing that large amount of aluminum until all the surfaces have enough airflow over them to generate lift.

The original question should probably have been asked like this:
"Will an aircraft that is tethered to the ground(equaling the zero ground speed of the original Q) lift off the ground under full throttle.
In this cas the answer is NO, as there is insufficient airflow over ALL the lifting surface (wing roots through to tip) to generate sufficient lift.

All the naysayers???

Explain this....
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Engines so far aft of the wing as to have little effect on the airflow directly on the main wing (ground staff can safely walk around the front of the aircraft with the tug attached). All they are doing is giving a "rear wheel drive" boot up the bum to the aircraft to generate enough speed to get the airflow velocity to what it needs to take off.

Short answer, aircraft on conveyor belt will advance fwd and eventually off the conveyor belt regardless of belt speed, therefore given a long enough conveyor belt, yes it will take off


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: DamKia] #763698 01/30/08 06:19 PM
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My 2 cents worth.

The engines produce thrust wblhablhablahablhabalhor belt regardless of belt speed, therefore given a long enough conveyor belt, yes it will take off


This is all what we have already explained. You logic is perfect. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: LandRaider] #763699 01/31/08 07:00 AM
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If anyone is still in doubt of this, please watch mythbusters. Plane defiantly takes off.


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: LandRaider] #763700 01/31/08 07:15 AM
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Daz episode 97 btw. More readin'.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060203.html


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: kewlynx] #763701 02/01/08 12:37 AM
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Even the guy driving the plane thought it would not take off. Why did he think that?


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: sparkem] #763702 02/01/08 12:43 AM
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Even the guy driving the plane thought it would not take off. Why did he think that?


Because he worded the question wrong. I sure am glad this is over. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OT Plane on a Treadmill [Re: LandRaider] #763703 02/01/08 07:46 AM
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