as i was in the 4 wheel parts store today picking up my new rims i saw a cali trail book and might go b ack a buy it it looks pretty cool and should give me a good starting point. thanks for all your advice, and hey steve ill hit you up after the new year hopefully i should have my trooper running alot better and fix my missing tire problem <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> i lost it drive 80 on the freeway. till then have a good holiday and new year