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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Airdale73013]
#771336
12/18/06 04:35 PM
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One thing that puzzels me... ( and I am in a "thinking loud" mode <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />) is as I said in the first place the big electrik cosumption of the big fan running all the time when the A/C is on... I syspect but couldnot find any information on the speks of the original A/C fan....
If the altenator can(????) manage it together with some lights a hot summer night stuck in traffik, then ok.... Because the bigg fan runs all thetime instead of the small one
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: fokion]
#771337
12/18/06 05:19 PM
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I just tested the OEM fan and it draws 5.5 amps at 13.9 vdc. The OEM fan only covers about half of the condenser so is marginally effective. The Procomp fan draws about 10 amps and when mounted in the shroud it covers the entire radiator and the OEM fan blocks air flow when it is not running.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Airdale73013]
#771338
12/18/06 06:14 PM
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So A. you have 10 amps all the time in the above example.. B. The 10 amps are there as long as you have the a/c on regardless if the engine is cold enough say driving at a highway... C. Yoy have the motor radiator "blocking" the flow, also the "side casualties" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> since there is free area to suck air between the two radiators instead "forsing" the air to come from the front cooling the a/c radiator...
(As I said.. I like your idea of removing the a/c fan so much and I want to make it "bullet proof")
Last edited by fokion; 12/18/06 06:16 PM.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: fokion]
#771339
12/18/06 06:57 PM
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I still don't think that the AC will blow quite as cold with just the 1 fan, as it would with the 2 fans, both the electric puller behind radiator, and the pusher on the condenser. BUT I could be wrong. Also we have 120 degree F and higher summers here so most people don't have to worry as much as I do  I think it will work good though, if it makes you feel better, I have seen other cars that have this same setup from the factory: 1 big electric fan as a puller behind radiator, and no fan on the AC condenser. So it's fine I'm sure.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: fokion]
#771340
12/18/06 07:03 PM
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If the A/C is not turned on the fan will run at 50% or 100% if the engine is above 160 deg F or 200 deg F.
In the OEM system the electric fan runs full speed when the A/C is turned on.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Nukeiridium]
#771341
12/18/06 07:06 PM
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My fan and controller were installed when we were still having very warm weather and yes the A/C blows colder with the single fan. You don"t improve air flow much by having the small fan pushing through half the radiator and the large fan pulling through the whole radiator.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Airdale73013]
#771342
12/18/06 07:15 PM
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In the OEM system the electric fan runs full speed when the A/C is turned on.
not in my setup, I have it indipendant.... I work either off or 100% that is why I like the Spal thing and avoid the momentary drop in RPMs when the fan starts...
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Airdale73013]
#771343
12/19/06 01:43 AM
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My fan and controller were installed when we were still having very warm weather and yes the A/C blows colder with the single fan. You don"t improve air flow much by having the small fan pushing through half the radiator and the large fan pulling through the whole radiator. Are you totally sure about that? Cuz I got a Procomp fan that says it flows 2750 CFM on High. Do you think with this fan on High, my AC would work better after removing the small fan?
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: Nukeiridium]
#771344
12/19/06 01:53 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
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My fan and controller were installed when we were still having very warm weather and yes the A/C blows colder with the single fan. You don"t improve air flow much by having the small fan pushing through half the radiator and the large fan pulling through the whole radiator. Are you totally sure about that? Cuz I got a Procomp fan that says it flows 2750 CFM on High. Do you think with this fan on High, my AC would work better after removing the small fan? OEM A/C fan would be lucky to see about 400-500 cfm (most high qual ones in that size are about 600 cfm). If you assume the A/C takes up about 1/4 of the coolant radiator area then the 2750 cfm should give about 700 cfm or so through the A/C radiator.
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Re: Electric fan installation
[Re: DamKia]
#771345
12/19/06 05:16 AM
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So the stock fan is ??????? cfm????
and how about the 10 amps
(Getting better all the time.... I seem to be about to remove the fan....)
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