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Clutch Replacement #773405 12/19/06 01:29 AM
Anonymous
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Well my clutch crapped out on me yesterday so I'm starting to take out the tranny to put in a new one. Are their any problems I am going to run into when taking the tranny out and putting it back in that I need to know about? I've only got the shifters and the skid plate off so far because it got dark.

Re: Clutch Replacement #773406 12/19/06 01:42 AM
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mlclark Offline
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It's heavy. It is awkward. I hope you have a tranny jack or someone to help you (or at least call 911 for you).

Other than that, just remove everything and replace in reverse order.

Good Luck,
Michael

Re: Clutch Replacement [Re: mlclark] #773407 12/21/06 08:06 PM
Anonymous
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Are there any trick to getting the tranny to move back? I've got everything out but the tranny. No bolts left anywhere but the tranny will not move back.

Re: Clutch Replacement #773408 12/21/06 08:11 PM
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If you're SURE you have all the bolts out, and the driveshafts disconnected, then it may be the input shaft hanging on the pilot bearing. It'll just take a bit of muscle to get it to move back.

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Re: Clutch Replacement [Re: Richard Saylor] #773409 12/22/06 01:12 AM
Anonymous
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Shes still stuck. I got it to move back about 1/2 inch but thats all. I've been using a prybar and sticking stuff in the space and prying on the other side making sure not to hit the flywheel. Any tricks?

Re: Clutch Replacement #773410 12/22/06 03:16 AM
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JLEMOND Offline
Body Damage is Cool
MAKE CERTAIN YOU HAVE THE LOWER INSPECTION COVER OFF, THAT IS BOLTED TO THE FRONT LOWER EDGE OF THE TRANS BELLHOUSING, IF IT IS THERE , IF IT ISNT THERE , IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A STUCK PILOT BEARING , RUSTED ONTO THE INPUT SHAFT, IF IT IS COMING BACK THAT FAR AND YOU ARE CLEARING THE UPPER DOWEL PINS , YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE TRANS UP AND DOWN FROM THE REAR AND PULL BACK AT THE SAME TIME TO GET THE BEARING OUT OF THE CRANKSHAFT END , IT WILL COME BACK FAR ENOUGH TO HIT THE BACK SIDE OF THE CLUTCH FINGERS AFTER IT CLEARS THE CRANK END , NOW THE FUN STARTS , YOU NEED TO GET IT BACK FAR ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET A 12 MM OFFSET WRENCH IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BELL HOUSING OR THRU THE STARTER HOLE, AND REMOVE THE PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS ONE AT A TIME, AND THEN ROTATE THE ENG UNTILL THE NEXT ONE COMES UP , THERE ARE SIX OF THEM, NOW YOU MAY HAVE TTO PRY THE P.P LOOSE FROM THE FLYWHEEL TO GET IT OFF THE ALINGMENT PINS, ONCE YOU GET THE P.P LOOSE THE CLUTCH ,P.P. AND THE PILOT BEARING WILL ALL COME OUT TOGETHER ,, JUST BE CAREFULL OF THIS THING, IT IS A HEAVY TRANS WITH THE TRANSFER CASE ON THE BACK END, AS IT IS ALL CAST IRON FOR THE T/C/ , IT IS ESP HEAVY WITH THE CLUTCH AND THE P.P. STILL HANGING ON THE FRT END, WHEN YOU PUT THIS THING BACK TOGETHER PUT A TINY BIT OF ANTISIEZE ON THE TIP OF THE INPUT SHAFT WHERE IT GOES THRU THE PILOT BEARING , SO THIS DOESNT HAPPEN AGAIN... JERRY

Re: Clutch Replacement #773411 12/22/06 03:17 AM
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mlclark Offline
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Did you pull the shifters?

You just need to get under there and shake that sucker loose.

Usually, singing the Barney song helps a bit. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good Luck,
Michael

Re: Clutch Replacement [Re: mlclark] #773412 12/22/06 03:51 AM
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SuperSwamper Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
On my trooper when I took the engine out there was a bolt behind the distributor that I didn't see, all I had to do was remove the coil, and was able to get to it. Not sure if that was any help, but I would give it a good look over to make sure all the blots are removed.
Matt


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Re: Clutch Replacement #773413 01/01/07 04:08 PM
Anonymous
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Well it will come back a good ways then it will pop back forward like somethings pushing back but nothings there to push back. You guys think cutting some wood shims and taping those down in there would do the trick?

Re: Clutch Replacement #773414 01/02/07 04:39 PM
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Trooper-san Offline
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Well it will come back a good ways then it will pop back forward like somethings pushing back but nothings there to push back. You guys think cutting some wood shims and taping those down in there would do the trick?


I think you'd stand a real good chance of breaking something you don't want to break. I think its probably hanging up on something or you have a bolt still in place, but perhaps a bit loose. Try counting the bellhousing bolts you've removed. In total, including the starter, I believe there are fifteen. There are a couple across the top which can be a bit difficult.

I have a rough drawing of the bolt pattern I can email you if you PM me with an address.

This thing must be well supported in order to come off straight. It can't come off hanging down. I used a floor jack with a transmission adapter when I did mine. Coming off was easy. Putting it back on was a royal pain.


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