Thanks for the info I hope the diffs are in good shape I dont want to find out they not out on the trail. I read some where that it is better to have an open diff for tracking straight in difficult terran? maybe I read it in off road adventure mag by 4wheelparts not sure. Basicaly are front lockers something I should consider or should I focus on getting a winch first and a new front bumper. Also I ran into a jeeper who pulled me over in town he mention that he purchased a winch from harbor freight <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Im not sure if that was wise, I saw it in their flier. I know of now one using a harbor freight winch? maybe someone has im currious.