The biggest drawback (to me) with permanent magnet motors is that the magnets will loose strength over time at a rate that is largely determined by how hot they get. It's hard to use a winch without overheating the motor. None (electric) are rated for continuous use. One good feature of the newer Warns is thermal protection. Even they recommend winching under load for short periods followed by longer periods of cooling time. It's been a long time since I did any shopping for winches, like I said the HF worked for me, other brands may be offering thermal protection now, I don't know. I also like to wheel alone. One bad experience without a winch was all it took to convince me I needed one. On the average I used it for self recovery once a year and about the same amount for winching others. Whatever the brand, do some research on the safe usage of it. You can't be too careful! Search these forums for lots of tips and opinions on winches, their use, safety factors, etc. The topic has been discussed a lot. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />