I found collins Brother on the web just after I read the thread on black mountain whinches, still couldn't find much info other than they seem reasonable in price what about mile marker are they made in the usa or over seas. Im not sur if it matters the thread earlier stated his harborfreight winch worked good for four hears other than the fact it was slow. I don't know. just want to save some money yet have reliable equipment is speed a factor how slow is slow on the harbor freight winch?