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Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: wsquaredodie] #779985 01/16/07 04:44 PM
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garym Offline
Rock Warrior
I have been running ceramics on my F250 work truck for about 20K miles now. I got them for the reasons you stated, heavy loads going down long hills. I run just at GVW max and went thru the stockers in 25K miles. I really could not feel any difference from the stock pads when they were cold but this is a 2005 with ABS and discs all around. It shure helped with fades with long braking periods.


1997 T-100 4X4 Xcab,Warn Hubs
02 Camry LE
2008 Yaris
Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: ErikB] #779986 01/17/07 05:32 AM
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wsquaredodie Offline
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If your Hawks are dusty, that's why they work so well hot or cold. They are soft pads. You want longevity, they are not the ones. You want performance, use them knowing they will be replaced more often. Watch a pit stop on NASCAR. The dust they see, even with high performance pads, is incredible. Thank God they do not use asbestos units that I grew up with.....


trafdlo
Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: wsquaredodie] #779987 01/17/07 03:40 PM
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ErikB Offline
Toyota Moderator
That may be, but its not what I expected because of what their website claims:

HPS Ferro-Compound Features:

* Increased stopping power
* High friction/torque hot or cold
* Gentle on rotors
* Extended pad life
* Low dust
* Virtually noise-free

http://hawkperformance.com/performance/hps.php

1, 2, & 6 seem to be true so far, too early to tell on 3 & 4, but I don't agree w/ #5. No big deal though, just a nuisance.


'97 4Runner, '06 F350, '86 4Runner, '05 WR450
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Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: ErikB] #779988 01/18/07 02:47 AM
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wsquaredodie Offline
Rock Warrior
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EB, ads are what they are. Snake oil sells.


trafdlo
Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: wsquaredodie] #779989 01/19/07 10:35 PM
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ErikB Offline
Toyota Moderator
I wouldn't call it snake oil at all because it lives up to its most important claims. And they may very well dust less than some OEM applications I've seen, just not this one, so that claim may not exactly be false either.


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Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: ErikB] #779990 01/20/07 02:31 AM
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wizardz Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
back to my clutch <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Do I reuse the factory pressure plate? Should I go with a ceramic clutch?

I'm inclined to do the ceramic clutch. I live in the city and driving around here gives me what I call "clutch foot". Ceramic clutch might not be a bad idea.

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />


*95 T100, 4WD, EXTCAB, SR5, 5spd, 2.5 mm bored throttle body, Kumho Venture MT, Bilstein HD, TRD SC, URD Performance Upgrade Kit, 2" body lift, TRD headers coming soon
*06 Toyota Rav4 269HP 4wd V6

Amsoil in all
Re: heavy duty clutch [Re: wizardz] #779991 01/20/07 07:22 AM
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ErikB Offline
Toyota Moderator
Your best bet is to replace the disk, pressure plate, throwout and pilot bearings all while you're in there, as well as have the flywheel resurfaced. That is, unless you plan on needing to pull the tranny again soon...

I'm pretty sure Marlin's kits come complete with all that stuff, but check to be sure. I'll be looking forward to hearing feedback on that clutch! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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