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Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
#781911
01/21/07 05:01 AM
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 74
OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I have always gotten in the low 20s mpg with my truck. This last month it has snowed a ton in Colorado and I haven't had the front end disengaged at all. I have gotten the worst mileage ever in the 10 years that I've had this truck at 17-18mpg. The low temps and resultant high gear oil viscosity mixed with stop-and-go really killed my mileage. Of course that includes the oxygenated winter gasoline and denser cold air. But I have never gotten under 20mpg before even in past winters (but I only had the hubs locked maybe 7 days out of the whole winter). I had been thinking that maybe something was wrong with the engine but I just got 24 mph (highway at around 7k feet) this weekend with front disengaged which is what I get in the summer. I guess cold weather mixed with stop-and-go and having that front end turning all the time really can affect mileage.
1989 reg cab pickup, 22re, 31s, 4.56s, rear ARB, rear OME springs, RS9000s, otherwise stock.
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: btn]
#781912
01/21/07 05:41 AM
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Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 159
Wheeler
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Oddly enough, I am noticing the exact same thing. My last tank has been dismal, with no apparent reason. Same driving, same everything, as far as I can tell. Usually about 20mpg, and I'd be suprised if I'm getting even 12-15 right now
Kinda sucks. I wonder if there is some bad gas going around in Colorado. I'm in Fort Collins- where are you?
B
88 Trooper, 2.6 5spd 89 Trooper RS 92 Montero
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: 4runnerpilot]
#781913
01/21/07 07:51 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 386
Mudrunner
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I have noticed my milage is lower and a lack of power with gas from certain stations. No snow here B P is very poor gas .I have heard they are mixing stuff in it for environmental reasons ,ethanol or something
oh what a feeling: #1 86 xtra cab 22R,EB 261 cam ,Hooker header,2" ex with cherry bomb, Aussie powered #2 86 sr5 4x4 efi parts truck #3 87 2wd parts truck 84 supra yard art
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: btn]
#781914
01/21/07 10:00 AM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 457
Mudrunner
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There are lots of factors that decrease winter fuel economy. If you are like me, you start your engine & then go scrape ice or clean off snow. You get zero MPG while idleing & not moving. Cold engine oil, tranny oil etc increase drag until they warm up, & as you say, accidents & other problems increase time spent with engine running & no movement. The extra drag from using 4WD also factors in, but the mileage drops even in a 2wd rig.
I've been running both for over 20 years up here & I bet I could tell you more or less when the major storms came in by looking at the mileage logs.
Dave
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: cktoy]
#781915
01/21/07 03:40 PM
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Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,010
Body Damage is Cool
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No snow here B P is very poor gas .I have heard they are mixing stuff in it for environmental reasons ,ethanol or something every gas station around here has 10% ethanol in their gas year round. i always thought bp was good gas, but maybe its just my imagination. crown gas on the other hand, it has dirt in it. no joke.
87 22R PU, 2? body lift, 33? BFG muds, 4.88's, F&R Lock-Rights, Rancho Shocks, EB's Street RV Head w/ 268 Cam, LCE Header, 2" to 2 1/4" exhaust, Flowmaster 50 series, Magnaflow high flow cat, complete Herculined SR5 interior, V6 BB, MC, and calipers.
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: 87Toy4x4]
#781916
01/21/07 04:38 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 669
Rock Warrior
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Two other things that could impact it: 1) If it takes a long time for your truck to come up to temperature.. When the engine is cold, EFI adds more fuel to the mixture.. When really cold, it's actually a lot more fuel.
2) Intake air temp again, more fuel when cold to compensate for dense air.
22REturbo.net 1988 4Runner 22RTE core, turbocharged, megasquirted...
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: dcg9381]
#781917
01/21/07 07:48 PM
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Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 827
Rock Warrior
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ya, i went from best of 23.5mpg in early December to current low of 15.5mpg. All this with the same tire pressure/size/ratio/hub unlock. Crazy i tell you! And yes, i live in Quebec and I start engine first for 3mins-ish while i'm scraping snow/ice.
Still, 8mpg differece is too much!
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
91-22re(408xxxkm & counting with a rebuilt long block)- Flatbed/ Camper/33x10.5BFG-AT/Open 4:88/1.5"BJS/ +2"Shackles/Add-a-Leaf/AirLift/Dual-Batteries
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: allochris]
#781918
01/22/07 08:32 AM
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,568
Roll Me Over
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Winter fuels are usually good for a 1-3 mpg loss, a 34% loss in mileage is a significant loss. Did you have adrastic drop in temperature?, if not, I would start looking into it, you may have a bad plug, injector or sticking valve, etc. Even letting iot warm up for 5-10 minutes wont consume that much gas to cause a drop like that in mileage.
More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else. '90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction. '91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: Snowtoy]
#781919
01/22/07 04:46 PM
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,311
Forum Moderator
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This happens every year to me no matter what car I have had. The best solution is to plug it in over night so the engine isn't a brick in the morning.
(aka suprathepeg, aka Sean) 89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over. 95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)
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Re: Interesting winter gas mileage disparity
[Re: Snowtoy]
#781920
01/22/07 09:38 PM
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Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 827
Rock Warrior
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Did you have adrastic drop in temperature Only from about 7-8?C (23.5mpg) to -10?C ish (15.5mpg), about 15? - 20?C colder. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
91-22re(408xxxkm & counting with a rebuilt long block)- Flatbed/ Camper/33x10.5BFG-AT/Open 4:88/1.5"BJS/ +2"Shackles/Add-a-Leaf/AirLift/Dual-Batteries
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