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ok back on topic my 94 pickup had 269k on it original motor and i started gettin water in the oil. so thinkin that i had blown a head gasket or worpt the head i took it apart had the head rebuilt and machined, replaced the gaskets put it back together and it still was getting water in the oil. so i figured it must be a cracked block and i replaced the engine. after gettin the truck up and running again i herd about how the plastic guides for the TC have a habit of breaking and sure enough when i took the old motor apart the guides were gone and the chain rubbed right through into the water pump. WISH I KNEW THAT EARLIER <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> --- DOUG