I strongly agree, I guess I need some feedback to justify the $178 a tire...we just received 6"snow on top of ~1" of ice, from earlier freezing rain. I took the '85 Land Cruiser to work and back today. The BFG AT 31X10.5-15's with 35K on them still grab like they were new. Alas, I am selling that old rig, hence my user name...thanks.