</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by gota87toy:
<strong>hey AZRain-

A "driving" holster is a good idea- it's rather difficult to get to a sidearm under a seatbelt. One option is to carry in a but forward left side crossdraw. Kirpatrick Leather offers one-
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">one of the problems with a crossdraw holster is that the sealbelt gets in the way. and the steering wheel too.

try it sometimes, with an unloaded weapon.

IDPA actually doesnt allow this in their competitions. and some of their stages require starting with seated in a car...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Yota_number3:
<strong> People have lost their permits for being stupid like displaying their weapon at the wrong time, but no one has been charged with shooting someone at the wrong time.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">this law should be in all the books. this is a stupid move. nothing but showing off.

the reason is it called CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON is just that.

in kalif, it's against the law just to make certain gestures with your handgun.

i guess it stems from all those stupid freeway shootings and crap.

yes, there are stupid people with CCWs. if you read stories at www.packing.org, there's a story from a guy in calif, who's been trying to get his CCW, and he give an instance of someone who got his because he had some political connection and was abusing it:

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by DixieChick66:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Land yacht:
<strong>"for example, in a gun forum, i read where the dude was actually in a shoot-or-be-killed situation. he killed the bad guy, but because it was a white vs minority case, and the local politician was a minority, the DA wasnt even going to bring up charges.

but the the politician forced the DA to charge the guy. even though he was found not guilty, lawyer fees came to around $18 grand..."

Sad day when it comes to this.
This is why we law abiding citizens need to get out to vote.

I carry mine in a holster between the console and the driver's seat. Very accesable and stays put.

HTH, JS</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">A few months ago, here in Alabama, a man home on leave from the military was car jacked in line at a McDonald's Drive Thru. He got out and gave up his truck but the scum shot him in the face for the hell of it. Though he was shot, he still managed to draw his own handgun and killed the robber. Thank God he was carrying his own handgun and killed the guy. Otherwise, he would have taken the truck and killed God only knows how many more people.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Hey guys all the more reason why you should carry on you!! Lets be realistic you get shot when you get too brave. First off, when someone gets the drop on you, as Tony Soprano would say, FUGGETTABOUTIT. No way your gonna draw on a guy with a gun. I dont care if you have it mounted right on the dash. No way, Try it with a friend and I guarantee you he says bang b4 you even reach for it. Next up I know you guys cant be leaving it in the car under the seat? Thats got to be the most stupidest thing I ever heard!! Ok your in the Supermarket and someone breaks into your car now hes got a gun!! That will get a cop a big time suspension or even loss of job! Respect your gun and never let it be anywhere you aint!! Dixie I know your a cop and Im sure you have great judgement but for all you guys out there a gun is a great responsibility. You just cant shoot people cuz they challenge you. Some people get real big with a gun and thats what gets you tried by 12 and usually puts you in financial ruin!!!!! Remember this, if you can get away do it, using the gun should be a last resort otherwise you may find yourself defending a million dollar law suit and maybe get jail time. Just remember that its all how you articulate the scenario. See a weapon, draw a weapon and you should be ok, but never elevate more force than your oponent otherwise they will say you were the aggressor.
Good luck guys and be safe!!!

I heard a loud noise last night that woke me up from my sleep. Reached over to the nightstand and picked up my 9mm. No lights, grabbed my cell phone which is also on the nightstand. Walked around the house slowly listening. Didn't hear anything in or out for a couple minutes. Went to the garage and found my bender fell over onto the floor. I was happy and went back to bed. It's better to be a little cautious than dead.

For those who have to ask about guns, we're not all paranoid freaks, but if it goes down we are ready. I own two, and no I don't have any suggestions for your interior mount question. I have one with me most of the time, thank God for AZ's liberal gun laws. I carry mine in the center console of my Runner when wheeling with 20 rounds. A 40 cal shouldn't be hard to hide in the glove box unless it's full, just be sure to inform officer friendly if you get pulled over. Honesty and a little awareness of your surroundings will go a long way.

I personally would just keep it within hands reach between the seat and console (about the only place on a third gen) and not worry too much.

<small>[ March 17, 2003, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: pmurf1 ]</small>

qb][/QUOTE]Hey guys all the more reason why you should carry on you!! Lets be realistic you get shot when you get too brave. First off, when someone gets the drop on you, as Tony Soprano would say, FUGGETTABOUTIT. No way your gonna draw on a guy with a gun. I dont care if you have it mounted right on the dash. No way, Try it with a friend and I guarantee you he says bang b4 you even reach for it. Next up I know you guys cant be leaving it in the car under the seat? Thats got to be the most stupidest thing I ever heard!! Ok your in the Supermarket and someone breaks into your car now hes got a gun!! That will get a cop a big time suspension or even loss of job! Respect your gun and never let it be anywhere you aint!! Dixie I know your a cop and Im sure you have great judgement but for all you guys out there a gun is a great responsibility. You just cant shoot people cuz they challenge you. Some people get real big with a gun and thats what gets you tried by 12 and usually puts you in financial ruin!!!!! Remember this, if you can get away do it, using the gun should be a last resort otherwise you may find yourself defending a million dollar law suit and maybe get jail time. Just remember that its all how you articulate the scenario. See a weapon, draw a weapon and you should be ok, but never elevate more force than your oponent otherwise they will say you were the aggressor.
Good luck guys and be safe!!![/QB][/QUOTE]

Well said Sir.