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Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
#784212
01/29/07 03:01 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I got an axle out of an 85 and averything seems to be in pretty good shape. Im going to rebuild the whole axle anyway, but the pinion is loose. I can move the pinion in and out about 1/4inch. I can imagine why. The way I see it is the pinion is moving back and forth on the ring gear. I havent pulled the third out to see whats going on yet. Is there a bearing that is shot? I have never set up a pinion before. I have put a locker in and set the back lash but thats it. Any info would be great. Thanks Stinson
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Stinson]
#784213
01/29/07 03:18 AM
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Joined: Oct 2002
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If it's what I think it is, the carrier bearing is shot.
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: kewlynx]
#784214
01/29/07 03:27 AM
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Joined: May 2004
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Mudrunner
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If it's what I think it is, the carrier bearing is shot. x2 i'd definately get a new set of bearings(itstall kit) and rebuild the diff. as long as the teeth on the ring and pinion gears don't show any signs of damage, you should be fine.
SAS88TOY, caged, lockered, Longfielded, etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah!!! 2005 Tundra Quadcab.
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: YOTA88]
#784215
01/29/07 03:47 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Thanks guys. So I guess if im putting in a carrier bearing, then that would be a good time to regear the third because I have to set everything up at the same time right? Or can I just put a carrier bearing in with out haveing to set the pinion up?
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Stinson]
#784216
01/29/07 05:41 AM
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Do it all while you've got 'er torn down. You can save up for the other end; you just can't use your 4wd...if you can afford both, do it.
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Stinson]
#784217
02/07/07 01:50 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13
Need a Spot
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not sure why ppl telling you it's the carrier bearings ??? if your pinion shaft moves in and out a quarter inch then it's the pinion bearings that are shot and the crush sleeve to also ur pinion may have chewed on the carrier it's self i had two diffs do that to me! recomend full rebuild cuz gears will be shot to almost certan !! and install crush sleeve eliminator kits from allprooffroad.com harder to set up but when done right bom proof !!! espesialy with lockers and lower gears + bigger tires i have done it all and gears are good even though i break axle's and stripped my detriot locker recently gears and pinion are good just need new locker now and bom prof axles hope this helps fell free to contact me for help!!! shannon 84toymonster
Shannon 84 toy 7"lift 35"tires 4.88gears det. lockers 320hp smallblock chevy th350 auto trans on baurd air snorkle on baurd welder 8000lb winch custom rear bumber nerf bars
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Shannons_v8toy]
#784218
02/07/07 01:54 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
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Rock Warrior
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i agree. i would say pinion bearing. possible bad carrier bearings too, but less likely.
dosent really matter either way though. it means a rebuild or replacing is in order.
-matt
-'88 toy x-cab, SAS, chevys, gears, lockers, free tires, dented body mod. -'87 4runner, bone stock DD
"It's OK to do stupid things, as long as you are not stupid about it."
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Shannons_v8toy]
#784219
02/07/07 03:39 AM
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 73
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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not sure why ppl telling you it's the carrier bearings ??? if your pinion shaft moves in and out a quarter inch then it's the pinion bearings that are shot and the crush sleeve to also ur pinion may have chewed on the carrier it's self i had two diffs do that to me! recomend full rebuild cuz gears will be shot to almost certan !! and install crush sleeve eliminator kits from allprooffroad.com harder to set up but when done right bom proof !!! espesialy with lockers and lower gears + bigger tires i have done it all and gears are good even though i break axle's and stripped my detriot locker recently gears and pinion are good just need new locker now and bom prof axles hope this helps fell free to contact me for help!!! shannon 84toymonster You broke the detroit but the gears are fine? That's a first for me. Not saying it didn't happen but usually it's the otherway around, that's interesting. Anyone else had this happen? Maybe Detroits aren't as bombproof as they say.
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: bodo]
#784220
02/07/07 03:53 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13
Need a Spot
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not sure why ppl telling you it's the carrier bearings ??? if your pinion shaft moves in and out a quarter inch then it's the pinion bearings that are shot and the crush sleeve to also ur pinion may have chewed on the carrier it's self i had two diffs do that to me! recomend full rebuild cuz gears will be shot to almost certan !! and install crush sleeve eliminator kits from allprooffroad.com harder to set up but when done right bom proof !!! espesialy with lockers and lower gears + bigger tires i have done it all and gears are good even though i break axle's and stripped my detriot locker recently gears and pinion are good just need new locker now and bom prof axles hope this helps fell free to contact me for help!!! shannon 84toymonster You broke the detroit but the gears are fine? That's a first for me. Not saying it didn't happen but usually it's the otherway around, that's interesting. Anyone else had this happen? Maybe Detroits aren't as bombproof as they say. YEP belive it or not i didn't till i pulled it out rounded teeth on one half of locker teeth so it just slips and clunks under load but interestingly enough sounds even wierder but i then put it in the back was up front and seems to work fine not sure if it'll work in reverse with a load probly not but well i'll get couple more miles out off it had it for 4 cyl 6 cyl and v8 like 9 years ow ya though 4.11's and 4.88 that are still in and fine due to eliminating the crush sleeve yahoo chewed up two carriers and two 4.11's p.s. i was told right after i bought them that they was week but i didn't harsh on them on the pavement just out wheeling lasted me good i'm happy took v8 and 4.88 and 35 14.5 boggers and hard wheeling to break years later was ok may buy another new generation not sure .. shannon thanks for ur interst and questions !!
Shannon 84 toy 7"lift 35"tires 4.88gears det. lockers 320hp smallblock chevy th350 auto trans on baurd air snorkle on baurd welder 8000lb winch custom rear bumber nerf bars
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Re: Got an axle, what up with the pinion?
[Re: Shannons_v8toy]
#784221
02/07/07 08:50 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 202
Wheeler
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well there ya go there is the reason he blew out the locker
"320 hp small block"
pull the smb and drop a built 22re in there and problem solved. had the smb and had the built 22re, would definitally take the 22re anyday, less problems. haha lol
92' Pick-up, SAS, gears to make her crawl, 37's , bullet proof motor, and alot of time invested. 06 CRF450R one mean roost flinging machine
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