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DANA 44s ? #786375 02/04/07 08:52 AM
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superduperbacon Offline OP
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hi im new to the off road world and i am currently on my off road project truck witch is a 89 yota truck, reg. cab, short bed, v-6, 4x4, 5 speed. i'm looking to upgrade my suspension. Well i plan on doing a straight axle conversion so i need an axle. i've heard that Dana 44s were the best and i have managed to locate a pair but have not yet purchased them. i would like any information on identifying them as Dana 44s, as well as any input in the way of good suspensions and everything that comes along with installing them. i am thinking of going with marlin crawler and am working with about $2000 to $3000. i plan on doing all the work with my own two hands, for fun and to eliminate the installation cost.

This is the ad for the Dana 44s.


Dana 44 axles- Full Width- 1/2 ton- from a early 80's K Series Chevy

I also Have 5.17 gears and install kit just waiting to go into these burly Axles.
200 for Gears
200 per axle

Also have 1982 Chevy 3/4 Ton 4X4 for Sale- $1800 obo
Runs Great

Also Have
Tranny and Transfer Case- Rebuilt and Never Installed- $250

20r Motor- $20 bucks

(is this what im looking for?)

Re: DANA 44s ? [Re: superduperbacon] #786376 02/04/07 04:17 PM
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subliminaltrips Offline
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talk him down but yea thats what you want....

Re: DANA 44s ? [Re: superduperbacon] #786377 02/04/07 11:50 PM
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Brian894X4 Offline
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Your stock rear Toyota axle is actually the same or stronger than any Dana 44 rear. Especially since you have a V-6 diff. So, unless you want full size wide axles, or plan to drop in an entire full size drivetrain, which would bolt up easier to a Dana 44, you don't need to bother swapping the rear axle.

As for the front, a 1979-1985 solid front axle out of a Toyota PU or 4runner will bolt up easier since most SAS kits are designed for that axle and the offset is the same as your stock T-case. Also, strengthwise they are also the same or better than any Dana 44. The weak point in the Toyota is the birfield, which can be upgraded to almost Dana 60 strong, with aftermarket parts.

Some guys have used short Dana 44s or a certain version that came in, I think, the Jeep Wagoneer or something with a different pumkin offset. But this is usually because they wanted to be different, got a really good deal on the right axle, or had a hard time sourcing a Toyota axle, which can be a problem in some parts of the country. (They're far more common in the western U.S.)

The conventional and most cost effective way, done by thousand and thousands of Toyota guys is using one of the SAS kits using Toyota axles. That's the way I'd go, because your not gaining anything buy dumping the Toyota 8" for the Dana 44s, IMO.

A few other things to consider. When setting up gears, if you're going to pay someone else to set up gears and do locker installs, which is the best plan, unless you got experience and the proper equipment, the Toyota has a major advantage.

With it's drop out pumkin, you can just take the diff out to a shop and leave the axle in the truck and the truck at home. It's also easier for the shop to work on, which might keep labor charges low.

You'll also want to factor in an install kit, besides, labor, gears and locker. An install kit has bearings and stuff that you'll want. They're between $100-200 per axle.


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Re: DANA 44s ? [Re: superduperbacon] #786378 02/05/07 07:26 AM
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ErikB Offline
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I'm pretty sure Chevy's never came with a Dana 44 rear, and considering that its an 80's era vehicle, its probably a 10-bolt front and not a D44 either. It is very similar though.

Brian is right- the Toyota axle is a better choice for the rear. The D44 front is more work to put in than a Toy, but it has some advantages that the Toy doesn't and vice versa. If you do go with a 44 front, here is some info that will help:

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/4runner/sas

And yes, the Marlin Crawler is the way to go for the t-case!


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Re: DANA 44s ? [Re: ErikB] #786379 02/05/07 08:00 AM
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YOTA88 Offline
Mudrunner
i'd stick with yota axle! alot less work to make it fit. grab a set of Longfields and you'll be better off then with a D44. not that the D44 wouldn't work. i just think that choosing it over a toy axle would be going the wrong direction.

just my $.02


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