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longer control arms
#787584
02/08/07 03:15 PM
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Joined: Sep 2006
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Can you get more lift from longer control arms or will it be the same as cranking the torsion bars? And also with longer control arms will you keep more of your factory ride since there is minimal torsion adjustment. Mine rides very stiff in the front and I want a little softer ride. I did put some new torsion bars on it from calmini so I know that makes a difference but when going threw a parking lot with speed bumps the front end feels like it is bottoming out if I dont creep over them.
NOT ALL WHO WANDER ARE LOST
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: VOLTRON]
#787585
02/08/07 04:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,277
Roll Me Over
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short answer is yes, longer control arms would lift an IFS vehicle. the long answer is no, there aren't any available for Isuzus and you can't make them without effecting many other components that all work and are designed together. Logner control arms would mean new CVs, new steering, new suspension... just to name a few.
-Rob
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: VOLTRON]
#787586
02/08/07 07:21 PM
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Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 2,394
Isuzu Moderator
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Depending on your vehicle, you can get most of the way there with factory parts. I don't know the full differences between years, but I can say that a '95ish - 97 Trooper lower a-arm will bolt into a 1st Gen Amigo and is about an inch or two longer. Some of them also used an extended lower balljoint that pushes it out another inch as well.
The upper arms won't work though as the mounts are different. But, you may be able to adapt/make something for the upper and use Trooper lower arms and half shafts on a 1st gen Amigo/Rodeo to get longer arms.
Somewhere I had pics comparing the lower arms, but I can't find them right now.
--Dan
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: houlster]
#787587
02/08/07 07:27 PM
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Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 84
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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so the calmini control arms are not any longer then the factory ones? If that is the case then what is the point in selling them, what is thier purpose?
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: VOLTRON]
#787588
02/08/07 07:30 PM
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Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 2,394
Isuzu Moderator
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so the calmini control arms are not any longer then the factory ones? If that is the case then what is the point in selling them, what is thier purpose? Calimini has upper arms that are *slightly* longer and a little different shape. They are intended strictly to help correct camber when you crank the torsion bars for lift. Nothing else. --Dan
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: VOLTRON]
#787589
02/08/07 07:31 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,277
Roll Me Over
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its been talked about before... you can search for the thread, but I believe the rumor was the arms themselves were the same length, but changed the mounting location of the ball joint (ie, same principle as ball joint spacers with the stock arms).
-Rob
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: RobG]
#787590
02/08/07 07:40 PM
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Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 84
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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cool well I appreciate the info fellas. I am trying to figure out if I want to beef up the ifs or do an axle swap. I want the vehicle to be road worthy and want it to be a camping type vehicle but also to have fun. So I dont want to change up the front end too much so I can trust it on a long trip. And I want to be able to go to any parts store and be able to tell them what I have if I need anything.
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: VOLTRON]
#787591
02/08/07 10:29 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,873
Body Damage is Cool
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An ideal solution would be a combination of three IFS drop kits for:
1) upper&lower control arms 2) steering knuckles 3) front differential
Together, these kits would preserve the almost-OEM geometry plus a good deal of lift. But only the differential drop kit was available (I have one installed).
As far as I understand, the control arms drop kits are common for some others vehicles (like GM trucks) but I have not seen anything like this on an Isuzu.
Oleg Axiom 4WD 2004: OME shocks, 32" BFG Mudders, RockSliderz, OME929+2" spacers, Stinkyfab bent RE rear links, front ARB locker, rear No-Slip locker, DOR front axle lowering kit, custom middle section skid plate, IronMan torsion bars. Deceased Rodeo'02 4WD.
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: holger]
#787592
02/08/07 11:02 PM
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,810
Body Damage is Cool
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dropping the upper a-arm would be major work. a lower arm drop, diff drop, and a taller knuckle (to connect the upper in the stock position and the dropped lower) would probably work best. although, I don't know about stock steering linkage interferance would be with, say, a 4" drop.
My vote goes to a well engineered and executed axle swap.
88 Troop - Posing yard art
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Re: longer control arms
[Re: paulevans76]
#787593
02/08/07 11:48 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,873
Body Damage is Cool
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dropping the upper a-arm would be major work. it may be not so bad if it can be "dropped" on another end - at the "knuckle" connection. My vote goes to a well engineered and executed axle swap.
not for a family vehicle to be driven on vacation from California to Arizona. If I would really need a front-streight-axled family vehicle, I'd better buy a Grand Cherokee.
Oleg Axiom 4WD 2004: OME shocks, 32" BFG Mudders, RockSliderz, OME929+2" spacers, Stinkyfab bent RE rear links, front ARB locker, rear No-Slip locker, DOR front axle lowering kit, custom middle section skid plate, IronMan torsion bars. Deceased Rodeo'02 4WD.
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