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Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788471 02/13/07 11:58 PM
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Yes, very close. It is in Starr, SC. It is my dads friends land, he has a few cars and a barn back there. I usually keep my Toyota there too.
Nice "shade tree" action. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

The in-laws want us to move out to Greenville SC. I'm kind of scared to leave the west. I was raised with big mountains and big surf. Change frightens me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


96 Montero LS 24V DOHC 3.0L.
98 Montero 24v SOHC 3.5L, factory rear locker, Winter/tow package.
63 Jaguar XKE 3.8L FHC
2000 Mercedes-Benz e430
07 fj cruiser
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: cmonty72] #788472 02/14/07 03:46 AM
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sparkem Offline OP
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You better not leave Tahoe and the skiing and the Rubicon, etc.... for Greenville SC. Tellico would only be a 100miles or so away.

It was storming here today, tornado watch too. So it will have to wait.


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788473 02/19/07 12:51 AM
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Finished and drove it today.

I had another couple of minor set backs. The first was a flat tire. I got some sand and dirt in the bead of one of the tires. Leaks very very slowly until it gets to a certain point then it goes flat in minutes. I put the spare on.

Next I got a very lovely and pretty brake bleeder helper to pump my brakes. I got under the truck and said "Ok, pump, stop, stop, stop." The driver side hose had a split in it. I think from moving the axle around. I went to the part store and got all 3 rear hoses. I took off 1 drive shaft bolt from the Toyota. It was too small. These 95SR drive shaft bolts are huge. These rear ends and some of the components are over built for the Montero. Anyway, I go into my stash of misc. parts and bolts and crap and got the 4 bolts from the lower ball joint, fit perfectly. Slightly long, but not too long. I bolted the shaft up, and bled the brakes, and drove off.

I have about 20 miles on it so far. No problems. The stopping power has increased. I like it. The gen2 rear coils are great too.

If I get home early enough tomorrow I will get some new pics. And pics of the Ujoints.


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788474 02/19/07 02:44 AM
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Was yours out of a 3.0l SR or 3.5l?


1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)

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Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: 52degrees] #788475 02/19/07 04:53 PM
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sparkem Offline OP
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Out of a 95SR with the 3.5. The big axle. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788476 02/19/07 06:07 PM
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fhuzz Offline
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Hey Sparkem,

I'm thinking about this swap onto my LWB and wanted to ask you a couple of questions if you didn't mind.

Did you use the 95's u-bolts or the ones on your Gen I?
Did you need to get the 95's axle or just the U-joint and bolts from the flange?
Did you need to get the proportioning valve?
Did you get the master cylinder from the 95?

I hope to take the axle off the donor myself, but may not get to do that so I want to know what to ask to keep...

If this makes any sense...

Thanks!

dT


'89 Monty LWB auto, 3rd row seating, 95SR rear + coils, genII UCA's and calipers/rotors, dual bouncies.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: fhuzz] #788477 02/19/07 11:01 PM
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sparkem Offline OP
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Did you use the 95's u-bolts or the ones on your Gen I?


Um U-bolts like on leaf springs? These trucks are coil sprigs. Did you mean U joint? I kept the gen1 drive shaft, left the upper Ujoint and slip yoke in place. I took out the Ujoint from the lower along with the flange. I took out the Ujoint and flange from the 95SR drive shaft and put the gen2 Ujoint with flange still attached into the gen1 shaft.

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Did you need to get the 95's axle or just the U-joint and bolts from the flange?


? I got the entire rear axle, arms and everything.Like said above you will need the flange from the drive shaft, and get the bolts too. The gen1 drive shaft flange bolts are too small.

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Did you need to get the proportioning valve?
Did you get the master cylinder from the 95?



I did not get either. I am using the stock gen1 v6 stuff already in the 91 LWB. Brake still feels the same, stops better. I like it. I want to get some new pads for the rear.

List of things I got from the yard that had the 95.
Entire axle wheel stud to wheel stud, with armm, panhard bar, parkng brake cables, and sway bar attached. I got the whole drive shaft. Also got the mini pump for the locker, located under teh pass side middle seat in the drug smuggler compartment. I got rear springs from a different 95SR.

I used the shocks already on the gen1, gen2s are different at the top. Everything just bolts up.

It just looks cool to take the rear tire off and see a disc. I want some gen2 front calipers now.


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788478 02/19/07 11:06 PM
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It just looks cool to take the rear tire off and see a disc. I want some gen2 front calipers now.


I agree. Now no mud caked up in your brakes, and Easy to Service!!

I still don;t understand how you got the DS to hook up.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: sparkem] #788479 02/20/07 01:29 AM
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fhuzz Offline
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Did you use the 95's u-bolts or the ones on your Gen I?

trick question... yeah that's it.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />

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I took out the Ujoint from the lower along with the flange. I took out the Ujoint and flange from the 95SR drive shaft and put the gen2 Ujoint with flange still attached into the gen1 shaft.


Having never removed the flange from a d/s is it compression fitted or is it a cut and bring to a driveline-shop-to-weld situation?

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...and get the bolts too. The gen1 drive shaft flange bolts are too small.


this is good to know...

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...I am using the stock gen1 v6 stuff already in the 91 LWB.


I might see if I can get the master cylinder from the 95 if I can...

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List....
Entire axle wheel stud to wheel stud
with....
control arms,
panhard bar,
parkng brake cables,
sway bar
...attached

the whole rear drive shaft
the mini pump for the locker(under pass side middle seat in the drug smuggler compartment)
the rear springs

I used the shocks already on the gen1, gen2s are different at the top. Everything just bolts up.


This is great!
Thanks for getting this done.

My current brakes are pretty weak... with new front calipers/rotors(that was fun)/master cylinder/2 new rubber lines... and... there's a sloppiness in the rear end of my 89 LWB that could use some attention, not to mention a forward to reverse clunking that's plagued this truck since I got it 7 years ago... that has been somewhat diagnosed from the good folks here as a possible LSD and/or rear bearings(fun) issue...

If I'm able to get a 95 SR rear end (with all the extra goodies) from a wreckers and I'd be well equipped.

Thanks Again.... and I may have more 'trick' questions for you should this purchase go forward...

dT

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'89 Monty LWB auto, 3rd row seating, 95SR rear + coils, genII UCA's and calipers/rotors, dual bouncies.
Re: Started my rear axle swap [Re: fhuzz] #788480 02/20/07 01:59 AM
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sparkem Offline OP
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Bad news, not related to the swap. Transmission is acting up. New post.

Landraider, what dont you understand, the process and parts swapped or how mine worked but others have not?


I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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