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Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: blackpenut] #789636 02/18/07 07:38 PM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Nobody's trying to sell you a Rubicon! It's simply a matter of seeing the forest instead of each tree.
You made a mistake purchasing a Jeep with a four cylinder engine where it obviously doesn't fit your needs. It seems you are attempting to deny your obvious "buyer's remorse" due to your affinity for Jeeps. The advice given you above, directly or indirectly, is pretty good. Dollars are important to you, and others, too. It would obviously be less expensive to simply purchase a vehicle that fits your needs rather than rebuild (destroy) a perfectly good Jeep. The four cylinder Jeeps are adequate for mild offroad applications, but are almost always found by owners to be underpowered for todays highways, as you have found out. You're not alone, I would venture that a good portion of the posts about Jeeps on 4x4wire are in regard to increasing the horsepower of the 4 cylinder engine.
As discussed above, slamming an small block V8 engine into the 2006 TJ (doesn't matter whether it's a 6 or 4 cylinder engine) isn't a simple matter, nor inexpensive.
I hope my note has cooled your exhaust just a little so you can see the sound advice the posters above have given you to keep you from heading into an unsound, expensive project. Best to you, and good luck with what ever you decide to do. I'm still trying to understand what you meant by "y the hell would i go for a rubicon when i would end up replacing all the addons that go with it anyways?" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />


94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.
Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: BigJim] #789637 02/19/07 01:56 AM
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blackpenut Offline OP
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As i stated before, stop trying to sell me on a rubicon. Even if i did get a rubicon i would still have to replace everthing you just said. If you didnt see. i want to keep the jeep i have. second off, i want a v8 in it. not a I6 or v6. i was thinking about a desil in it but not too sure. i could get one with the desil if i went up to canada. anyways, what i ment about replacing all the addons for the rubicon is: im putting in a v8, the rubicon doesnt come with one so there goes the motor and probably the tranny too. im going to replace the driveshafts anyways because of the lift. and im not worried about mounting/welding anything. i have my own welder, so also the exhaust will be no problem either. i would replace the axels mainly because i have a set of high clearance axles ready to be installed. and as for the gages, i plan on making my own dash anyways. and as for the brake system, dont make me laugh.

if you havent noticed the rubicon's are close $10,000.00 more then my base modle jeep. if i would have thought about it, i would have ordered it from the factory without the seats and with donuts on it to make it a little bit cheaper. i bought this jeep for a reason. it was the cheapest modle to do what i want with it. so as i said before. i am putting a v8 in my jeep. nothing else (unless i deside to go desil). so if you dont have any advice on how to do it, stop posting. because from what i can see, all you are is a 3rd rate mechanic with a rubicon fetish. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: blackpenut] #789638 02/19/07 02:54 AM
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BigJim Offline
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hmmm... Why are you here anyway? You obviously already know it all!
When you get it done please post photos of your progress.. We'd like to see them if any of us live long enough.
Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: BigJim] #789639 02/19/07 05:01 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
Body Damage is Cool
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> What a MAROON! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> This guy reminds me of a joke that was sent to me this week:


Redneck 911 Call

A couple of redneck hunters are out in
the woods when one of them falls to the ground.
He doesn't seem to be breathing
and his eyes are rolled back in his head.
The other redneck starts to panic, then
whips out his cell phone and calls 911.
He frantically blurts out to the operator,
"O my gawd! Help! My friend just died.
He's Dead! What can I do?"
The operator, trying to calm him says,
"Take it easy. I can help.
Just listen to me and follow my instructions.
First, lets make sure he's dead."
There's a short pause, and then the operator hears a loud gun shot!!!
The redneck comes back on the line and says, "OK, now what?"


Okay, blackpenut purchased a $14-18,000 plain jane Jeep simply to install a V8 engine; he already has "high clearance axles" to install, and plans to upgrade the driveshafts and install a lift. He just doesn't have a clue how to adapt the engine to the tranny-transfer case he's planning on using (BTW, JeePete listed one of the best sources for this information). No big deal! We probably shouldn't be denigrating blackpenut's plans, after all, we all have seen other similar buildups in many 4x4 rags! I say, to each his own project.
It would be interesting to know, blackpenut, how you intend to use this monster Jeep you're building? You must live east of the Mississippi River, I'm guessing, where you're considering a carburetor rather than EFI? If you were building a serious rockcrawler, you would know better than attempt to climb a near vertical slope with a carbur-ated engine. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see the dash you'll build in the module-style TJ. Seriously, send pictures, please, of the finished project! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
GreyScar, are you positive this guy isn't your 3rd or 4th cousin? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Fred Blackstone; 02/19/07 05:57 AM.

94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.
Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: Fred Blackstone] #789640 02/19/07 03:10 PM
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playinmud Offline
Mudrunner
i heard its extremely hard to drop a v8 into a new jeep because the engine bays are smaller and more clustered then like the CJ's, i dont think this guy has a clue on what hes getting into and is going to feel like an idiot when he gets somewhat into the project and realizes he should have listened to you guys

Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: blackpenut] #789641 02/19/07 06:13 PM
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Bigbird79 Offline
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..... i am putting a v8 in my jeep. nothing else (unless i deside to go desil). so if you dont have any advice on how to do it, stop posting. because from what i can see, all you are is a 3rd rate mechanic with a rubicon fetish. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Well considering we all have given him all the advice we can on how to do this mod, get a running 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck with a small block in it, and swap the entire drive train over, and pointed him to the correct adaptor companies. Why donÆt we just do what he asked, and stop posting and let this ridiculous thread die. He obviously does not really want our help, he is looking for an easy swap, which this isnÆt.

And hey genius its diesel, not desil.



Sean

Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: blackpenut] #789642 02/19/07 07:30 PM
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EDS2000tacoma Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
All i have to say is that your a real [email]dumb-@$$[/email], you ask for help and then you get pissed at everybody when they simply show you better cheaper options such as the rubicon(i dont give a rat's-@$$ what you think about 350's.)
Hey have fun scraping your TJ after you destroy it.


Eric S.

2000 Tacoma
-6in of lift,33x12.50 truxx's M/T's
Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: EDS2000tacoma] #789643 02/19/07 09:33 PM
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blackpenut Offline OP
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i would expect that from someone driving a tacoma. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
and since this must be another guy with a rubicon fetish that cant aford one so he drives a tacoma <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />, think of this one [email]dumb-@$$.[/email] ive said many times now that i dont want one. i want to put a v8 into my jeep. if you dont like what i have planned then leave the comments to yourself. or if you really have no life and want to comment on stuff that you think you know everything about, go ahead, just try not to spread your stupid to everyone else. it looks like biggayjim has aready humped you into submission. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />

Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: Bigbird79] #789644 02/19/07 09:54 PM
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blackpenut Offline OP
Need a Spot
hey genius, if you havent noticed, no one besides jeepete has provided any usefull info on how to do this swap. everyone has either had a hardon for the rubicon or has nothing to input besides some [email]smart@$$[/email] remark. i have already thanked jeepete, and i have been trying to make the people that have been posting crap straight on what i have planned. this is my rig that i am building. i am sticking to the plan i have. all i wanted was to see if someone had some good advice on some adapters to use or some components that would work well together. but when people keep on posting on the same crap, when i already explained my plan. like i have said over and over again... i am putting a v-8 or a diesel(ty for the correction, i suck at spelling) into my jeep. if you dont have any usefull advice or if you just want to put my plan down, plz dont post. ty.

Re: 2006 TJ 4banger --> 350V8 [Re: blackpenut] #789645 02/19/07 10:05 PM
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BigJim Offline
Web Wheeler
My first answer was 4 days ago... By now I could have found an purchased a rubi.. TODAY I would have been four-wheeling in the rocks.. How far along are YOU after four days?
Hey BlackP We have all been where you are. Then the rubi came along and answered all our questions. Sure the IDEA of a v-8 is good to come up with.. But the answer is still a rubicon. The low end torque of the fuel injected 6 does a great many more things off raod than a carbed v-8 will. AND does em better too. THIS is a Jeep forum you are in not a hotrod forum. MAny of us have installed huge v-8's in our grocery getters. BUT them engines are not for offroading.
Yeah you can make a really radical rock climber with a 280 cam in a 383.. But you won't enjoy it much when it is on the trailer going back and forth.
Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


professional bovine relocation specialist
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