All of us here would give the same advice...Go buy a 3/4 or a 1 ton pickup and transfer EVERYTHING from that truck into your Jeep. Don't try to piece it together.
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I was just going to say the same thing, yet again, and I never did say to get a Rubicon, for the record. I was telling you a package of components (an entire existing full sized truck) that will work well together, and are sized properly for the provided HP and Torque you are planning on with a V8. Now personally if I was taking on this project I would try get get a EFI V8 to stick in there for the reliability.

Sean

For one i dont have a rubi fetish, they are just great rigs, and yes i agree with u that it wouldnt make much sense to buy one if you really had to have a v8. but that also brings up the question why didnt you just buy and old cj or wrangler sense you are going to completly strip it for the v8 and all of the extensive fab parts you are going to need. it doesnt make much sense. yes you will say, but a wanted somthing new. ok thats fine but if you took the time to do your body work and then fabed up your v8,driveline,axels,rims, tires....ect. it would be just as good as new because your going to modify most everything but the body.
hey not sure what you ment buy someone that drives a tacoma, but i would put my rig up against yours any day.

i GUESS BEING A NEW GUY ON yOUR FORUM i SHOULD SIT BACK AND LEARN BUT i HAVE A FEW THINGS TO COMMENT ON. fIRST OF ALL, THE GUY WANTS A 350. SO WHAT. FIRST YOU NEED TO MEASURE OUT YOUR ENGINE AND COMPARTMENT. yOU NEED TO KNOW IF IT WILL PHYSICALLY FIT. YOU NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT YOUR NEEDS WHEN DOING A PROJECT LIKE THIS IE: HEADERS POWER STEERING LINKAGE,AND LINKAGE FOR THE TRANS ETC. FOR THE BIG ENGINE COMMENT,
yOU WHO DON'T HAVE OR WON'T HAVE DON'T BE NEGATIVE. IF YOU CHOOSE TO FINESSE YOUR CRAWLING FINE BUT DON'T PUT DOWN OTHERS WHO WHEEL DIFFERENTLY.
THIS 350, IS IT FI AND IF SO WHAT TYPE, ENGINE MODEL (SPECIFICALLY) WHAT DID IT COME OUT OF? YOU WILL NEED TO FOLLOW YOUR EMISSIONS LAWS FOR YOUR STATE AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU FIND A SHOP THAT HAS SWAPPED SOME IN TO FIND OUT WHAT IS REQUIRED OR FIND YOUR STATE DEQ AND VERIFY. TRANNSMISSION, AUTO OR MANUAL? A NP231 CAN HANDLE A LOT AND ARE FAIRLY CHEAP TO FIND. POSS SELLING YOUR REMAINING DRIVETERAIN PIECES TO OFFSET THE COSTS RELATED.
AXLES WILL BE ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN. A DANA 44 WILL LIVE BEHIND A BBCHEV, WITH 40'S FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T MIND U JOINTS, SO YOUR 35/35 STUFF WILL LIVE FOR A WHILE (IE G CHEROKEE V8).
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME MEASURING WHAT YOU HAVE ROOM TO PUT IN. I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT YOU FIND A FI ENGINE. THESE GUYS ARE HELPFUL BUT YOU HAVE TO WADE THROUGH THEIR PREJUDICES OF OTHER BRANDS. THEY HAVE ALL SAID WHAT I SAID BUT ITS IN THREE PAGES OF STUFF.
RELAX AND MEASURE. PAINLESS OR ASM MAKE STAND ALONE HARNESSES FOR NEARLY ANYTHING, HATLEC AS WELL.
HOPE THIS HELPS... SW <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

74 CJ5 468/TH400/D20 D44'S SPOOLED AND LOCKED 4WDB ON 40'S

BlackPenut,
1.) First, you ask advice on your half-baked idea of trashing of a perfectly good Jeep.
2.) Then you get pi$$ed off when the advice you get isn't what you want to hear.
3.) Then you insult Big Jim and others who are trying only to help.
4.) Go away.
Corona

the first thing he needs to do is check to see if his state will allow this in this new of a vehicle, since its a 2006 it will probably still need to have emissions testing and when it fails 3 times his license goes bye bye

i completely support this.

real trail rigs are built not bought.

my only question is if he went with a TJ because he liked the looks.

other than that a YJ or CJ would have been a better choice money wise especially if the interior comforts are going to be stripped. (but i love tj's!!!)

anyway.

what do you plan to do with this jeep?

sand rig

mud rig?

rock rig?

i assume you are handy with fabrication and you can build your own four link or weld spring perches on for leaf springs.

since you are putting in a 350 and an appropriate tranny to go with it

i would settle for nothing less than an Atlas 2

and on the brakes...i agree anyone with a highschool education can assemble a brake system.

i would like to suggest however going with the hydraulic brake booster from an Astro van (similar to the 1 ton trucks)

we use those in our sand rails and the braking is amazing.

all you need to do is make sure you have a matching power steering pump as you will need the extra return line port.

advance adapters is your best option for adapters but since you are going with chevy engine/tranny, if you do an atlas 2 you most likely wont need one. (im sure they make an atlas that bolts to a chevy tranny!)

wiring isnt so bad except if you want to run "pretty" switches, or stock switches, in that event you will need to run relays. Which in excess could get a little confusing.

after market fuse panels are easy to come by and small block chevy's are incredibly easy to wire and for custom dash i would go with autometer guages. which are also easy.

you may have to replace your fuel sending unit unelss you plan to do an after market fuel cell all together. (autometer provides a sending unit with fuel guages)

if you arent handy with wiring i would suggest a painless setup, however some things you will have to splice yourself.

the easiest way to do the lights would be to tap into the existing wires to avoid making a wiring mess trying to drill new holes for wires.

if the engine doesnt fit CUT THE INNER FENDERS OUT!

it doesnt sound like this is going to be a daily driver anyway.

but with no inner fenders, if you do go through water with any speed i would suggest doing some sort of snorkel or atleast something to divert water away from your air intake.

What kind of axles do you have?

you havent said.

anyway.

my favorite part

gut EVERYTHING from the engine bay.

take no prisoners.

cut, hack, mangle!


might i also suggest (since 350's are so easy to make brackets for) on board air from an old A/C pump.

they are easy to find with a V belt pully and the bracket should be cake to make.

you can read the post i made here about the OBA for my cherokee
Wing Nut OOA's On board air for the financially challenged

At this point I don't think it matters what we say.Most likely he is a stubborn teen that thinks he knows it all and is going to do it no matter what we suggest.

Here is what I think,You should have bougt a used tj instead of a new one if you was planning on doing this in the first place. after all your pratically tearing the whole thing down and replacing everything.Or like someone said find an entire fullsize blazer and place the tub on that.

Since most Likely you wont listen anymore,as if you are anyway, I am going to do like my Dad did when I was like that. I am going to sit back let you find out on your own that you made the wrong choice and refuse to help when you beg for it.

Yes The best rigs are built not bought,but at least with the rubi he had a better starting platform, incuding the transfer case which from what i've read is higly sough after due to the ratio. I could be wrong but i think Adv adapt was looking to make one like it. And even if he did change the rubi stuff out he could sell it to someone wanting to upgrade their tj to offset his costs.

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i think you mis interpreted my post as being "you should've done this" or "you should do that"

when in actuallity it is suggestions on hopefully all of the points that he was inquiring about.

and it may be that youth is wasted on the young. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />

but wealth is wasted on the old <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

comming from one "stubborn teen" (haha) to anonther, i say: where are you getting all of this money from? If you really are a teen then mommy and daddy must be forking over some big dough for this project, i wish i had parents who threw me cash, my jeep is commin along as fast as the money comes in...

on another note, i am no genious with trucks, but i have my basic knowlage..
first off- carboration = bad idea
secoundly- you are going to have to shave the inner fenders to fit the engine, make sure you move the battery and properly seal the engine intakes.

but besides that all i have to say has been said, i say go for it, if u have the money it sounds like a kick ass project
I gotta frind that strapped a 350 to a ride on lawn mower, so anythgn is possible man! have fun..

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