Actually, that's what I did: got the sliders first then the bumpers later. I also suggest it as well if you off-road in the rough stuff. My rockers were already bashed-up pretty good by the time I got the sliders. I mainly wanted them so that I didn't make it worse. Any more bashing and I likely wouldn't be able to open/close doors. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Rock sliders first, then bumper. Sounds good and simple!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Lets see a pic of your bent bumper. If it is just towards one end they do not look that bad cut off. That is if you cut the bumper off fromt the bumper guards out on both sides of course. If you have any insurance maybe you can make a comp claim and use the money towards a Dons or ARB. If you use comp insurance your rates should not go up.

If you do not know how to post a pic send it to me and I will post it. I will PM you my Email address

I dont't have a dig. camera, but I'll see what I can do. Thanks <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

One of the off brand winchs are made by warn. Forgot which one.

DON bumper is more simple than the ARB, but I have had many people ask me if it was an ARB.

2 DON bumpers in one pic not at Don's house, how often does that happen?



2 DONs and an ARB.





You can do this with a DON bumper. I hit with the end of the pass side of the DON. It flexed and put a small crack in my JDM lense. Hit less than 10mph. It is my girlfriends car. Day after the Hurricane. Right hand turn, I thought she went but she was waiting until we could both pull out at the same time. I did not know where we were going, we were on back roads, Interstate was shut down with trees everywhere. Good thing here dad used to run the body shop at the Ford dealer.



Modified DON on Gen2. I had to just drill a couple extra holes.

Does don make 4door sliders? I would be interested in those.

Mitsulvr, he measured em for a four door off YOUR truck back before it was yours... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> So he should be able to...

Hey Tag, couldn't get any shot's of the damage, but I called a buddy of mine who owns a body shop, and said he'll take care of it as long as I pay dinner. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
If your ever I Texas give me a holler, so we can hit the beach, hopefully I have my Don Basher, I mean Bumper by then. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Thanks alot for your help. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Spark,

Now you're making me homesick for the good ole days! That first pic shows Ole Yeller with a Ramsey winch on the front. I can't wait to get the oil burner in a SWB Gen I and get out on the trail again!

Pmontero

Wow!

Just got back from a week skiing Blackcomb/Whistler, and found this "interesting" discussion!

FWIW:
ARB's are engineered to meet Auzzy on-road requiremets, and must be "impact-friendly". They are built well, and designed well, and work with air-bag equipted vehicles. I wouldn't throw one away.

Unfortunately Mitsu USA/Canada were required by the Govt to modify the front bumper mount extension from the frame, and that mod means the ARB's are no longer a direct bolt-on for us, they must be modified somewhat to fit. Increasing their cost even further beyond shipping across the Pacific.

My front bumper is basicly a modified section of 5" channel iron, shaped and fitted to the front of a Mitsu. No engineering, no PR dept (...well, maybe Joe!), no "on-road" certification. These are meant to be, and built as, OFF-ROAD armour. No idea what they do to airbag deployment.
And since many of us have some degree of body lift, and all of us differ on opinions as to how high on the body, or how far foward the bumper should be mounted, I make them so you can drill your own mounting holes to fit them wherever you want on your rig, lifted or not. And since it's all pretty much 1/4 inch steel, you can add and remove whatever you want at any future date. Just weld over any bolt holes you don't want! Or add any brackets anywhere. Just weld them on. Anywhere.
I think the ARB needs a special add-on to accomodate a winch (not sure anymore), whereas I integrated a winch plate right into the basic design. So nothing more to add.
ARB's come painted and ready to go (other than the frame mount nuisance), mine come as cleaned shiny steel, you get to coat it with whatever wunder-coat you want! Whatever works best in your area. I just used Rustoleum primer and then flat-black. Goes on easy, doesn't fall off easy, and retouches and blends in really well. To each their own!

The ARB uses 8 bolts (both sides of the frame extensions), whereas I use 4 bolts (using only the outside frame bolt holes). Since the steel on min is 1/4", 4 bolts is plenty, especially if you drill out the old welded on nuts and move up a few sizes in diameter, and use Gr8's. Either way, you could hang the truck by either ARB or mine. No big difference.

I did have trouble matching holes on the ones I've tried it on: apparently my rig may be "trail-adjusted" aleady!

The front bumpers are just different animals.
...try using a hi-lift jack directly on an ARB!

Thnks for the positive feed-back!
Don