O.K. FrankR, I am officially stumped. I recognize the S&W #36 and H.E. revolvers, but the two semi auto pistols are unknown to me. #3 sort of looks like a poor Beretta clone, and #4 a passing copy of a Luger, but I know enough of Lugers to know that is not what it is. What are they?


Too many 4x4's, not enough time or money