I certainly didn't mean to step on toes, Ted. I highly respect you and know your components are used by thousands w/o problem. I've made the mistake in the past of narrowing the potential cause to one item and forgetting that 15 other things have changed or are not adjusted, and that typically ends up in a bad scenerio (for me). A holistic view of the problem is necessary.

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>>>*Not a prob. I have dealt with drivability issues for over 45 years, everything from Flathead Fords to the types of engines we deal with in today's world.

No way can I ever get a handle on all the possibles I guess, especially when the job is hundreds or even thousands of miles away.

For this gentleman's situation, that "set at 5? without the computer jumped and it runs OK." Just keeps tugging at my mind.

This of course suggests the cam it timed straight up instead of at 11:30 position like it is supposed to be. Most engines do set up exactly opposite, of course the 22RE does not.

I suppose there could be a couple of bent valves from torquing the head down with the cam out of time a bit, but a leakdown test catches that easily.

So if not the obvious, then one needs to start at the basics. If the engine won't run properly timed, but does run improperly timed, then of course something else is out of time..No amount of tuning or adjustment will correct that until the foundation is correct....I would be curious to see a pic of the top cam gear with the engine on TDC at this point....*EB