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rear lift!!!! #800789 03/27/07 05:31 PM
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drewdaddy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Ok so I finally got my 32's on my pickup and man it sure does look like the back end it sitting alot lower. Now I have heard this is because the fenders are cut differently. I am thinking of putting shackles on the rear to lift it. Any thoughts on this?? Is it a pain, or do you suggest some other method? Do I need new shocks, or just the shackles. Also, if anyone has leveled their truck, does it make the rear sit way high like the 2wd look on some new trucks??


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: drewdaddy] #800790 03/27/07 06:56 PM
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4Crawler Offline
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Shackles are one option for a small lift:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shackles.shtml#FAQ4

Rear wheel wells are cut lower, you can measure from the ground up to the frame to see how level the truck sits.

Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: 4Crawler] #800791 03/27/07 07:26 PM
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RatLabGuy Offline
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"helper" springs also help
http://www.gearinstalls.com/dc.htm

Been much discussion about that here.
Shackle install is not too bad, you'll just need a jack and a couple of stands (and 19mm sockets)


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: RatLabGuy] #800792 03/27/07 08:06 PM
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TexJeff87 Offline
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Shackle install is not too bad, you'll just need a jack and a couple of stands (and 19mm sockets)


And the knowledge that it will change your pinion angle, possibly resulting in driveline vibration. Just don't go too long.

Add-a-leaf would be my first choice...


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: TexJeff87] #800793 03/27/07 10:42 PM
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dcg9381 Offline
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And the knowledge that it will change your pinion angle, possibly resulting in driveline vibration. Just don't go too long.

Add-a-leaf would be my first choice...


That's a fair point, but it actually changes your pinion angle in the right direction. If you're looking to get back to the original ride height, this might not be the best way to go. For a slightly taller than stock ride, it very well be the right way to go. Put a gauge on the pinion before/after... In my experience, within about 2-3" (approx) of lift, no pinion adjustment is necessary on 1980-1988.


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: dcg9381] #800794 03/28/07 01:58 PM
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TexJeff87 Offline
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And the knowledge that it will change your pinion angle, possibly resulting in driveline vibration.


That's a fair point, but it actually changes your pinion angle in the right direction.


In the right direction, yes. But too much can be a bad thing. If you have a CV rear shaft, you WANT the pinion pointed at the t-case. If not, the angle of the two u-joints needs to be close to the same, so the vibration of one end is canceled by the other end.

D, not arguing with you, just giving Drew the info. I agree that within reason a longer shackle is fine, but as you only get half the lift per inch of length, in order to get 3 inches of lift you'd have to have a 6 inch longer shackle, and that's too much. That WILL jack with pinion angle.

To me, and this is just me, a shackle lift is an add-on, something to be used in addition to something else, for anything more than 1-2 inches.


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: TexJeff87] #800795 03/29/07 02:27 AM
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drewdaddy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for all the info, I guess I might go with the add a leaf, or helper spring. I noticed mine are almost flat ( I guess being almost 20 years old does that). My springs look so sad, so I guess adding a shackle would only be overlooking the problem. What do you think?


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: drewdaddy] #800796 03/29/07 08:35 AM
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Don't buy an add-a-leaf for your truck unless you are running a shell and a lot of gear, add-a-leaf/helper springs provide lift but also stiffen the ride. I would go to your local wrecking yard and poick up a set of 56" chevy springs, they should be about $20-30 for the pair. Then go by an auto parts store and buy 2 new spring center pins and nuts. Take apart the chevy pack and isnatll the spring that is alm,ost as long as your stock main leaf(the one that attatches to the shackles). This spring will give you about 2" of lift and wont stiffen the ride. The whole thing should cost you less than $35, and only a couple hours of your time.


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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: Snowtoy] #800797 03/29/07 01:52 PM
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TexJeff87 Offline
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Don't buy an add-a-leaf for your truck unless you are running a shell and a lot of gear, add-a-leaf/helper springs provide lift but also stiffen the ride. I would go to your local wrecking yard and poick up a set of 56" chevy springs, they should be about $20-30 for the pair. Then go by an auto parts store and buy 2 new spring center pins and nuts. Take apart the chevy pack and isnatll the spring that is alm,ost as long as your stock main leaf(the one that attatches to the shackles). This spring will give you about 2" of lift and wont stiffen the ride. The whole thing should cost you less than $35, and only a couple hours of your time.



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Re: rear lift!!!! [Re: Snowtoy] #800798 03/30/07 07:28 PM
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drewdaddy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Don't buy an add-a-leaf for your truck unless you are running a shell and a lot of gear, add-a-leaf/helper springs provide lift but also stiffen the ride. I would go to your local wrecking yard and poick up a set of 56" chevy springs, they should be about $20-30 for the pair. Then go by an auto parts store and buy 2 new spring center pins and nuts. Take apart the chevy pack and isnatll the spring that is alm,ost as long as your stock main leaf(the one that attatches to the shackles). This spring will give you about 2" of lift and wont stiffen the ride. The whole thing should cost you less than $35, and only a couple hours of your time.


Thanks for the info, I have a couple of questions though. When you say use the one that is close to the length of my main, is that the only part of the chevy spring to be used? Throw the rest away right? Now does that bolt in directly under the main toyota spring? If so, do I toss the rest of those springs as well. So would i wind up with one toyota leaf and one chevy, or all the toyota leafs with on chevy under the main? As for the new pins and nuts, you want me to get new ones for the chevy springs or toyotas? I am guessing I need those because they are longer for when I bolt the new setup together?? Sorry to ask so many questions, I like this idea and want to make sure I understand it before I go ahead with it..


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