right on man, i know what you mean about the image it portrays, the videos make it seem a little worse than it is with the music an all.the camera is a bit decieving, it looks like alot more damage is being done but if you look at the picture the " damage " if thats what they wanna call it was already done naturally by the creek above overflowing its bed and washing out .. the 4 wheelers just widened it and we simply followed... its cool if you dont like it here i wont post any more videos im sorry for pissing the off the wheeling gods or whatever... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />