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Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: Rodgertheshrubber] #805809 04/18/07 12:30 AM
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I am just wondering if all that rust had anything to do with the stock brackets bending. I am with Erik on this one, I ran a Pro-Crap II for a couple of years and never bent the stock brackets. I was not easy on it and I only had to repair one of the kit brackets and replace the kicker tubes once. I sold it to Erik and he ran it for a few years then when he did his SAS he sold it to another guy for more then I sold it to him for.


David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA

"Serenity through Sobriety"
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: OOP'S] #805810 04/18/07 01:56 AM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
I too was surprised to see that the factory brackets had bent. I had only seen that once before on a friends yota where the rear bracket actually snapped off the framerail. He was running brand new 14.5 boggers though which should not be put on an ifs truck. His truck was as rust free as mine in the pics.

Yes, I call those pics rust free. There is surface rust only on my custom brackets which I never painted, and on the factory brackets from after they bent (as we all know when a painted metal bends, the paint cracks and allows rust). If you look in the pics, you can see there is a color difference between the surface rust on the brackets and the dried mud on the framerail. My frame up front has factory paint on it - what you see in the pics is dried up mud as the camera flash is deceiving. I mean sure, there is some surface rust in select spots, but the frame and brackets were not weakened from rust.

One possible reason the factory brackets bent that I can think of is with all the drop brackets tweaked the force on the factory brackets was applied in a way they were not designed to take. Idk. I do know that I went through about 3 drop brackets before a factory bracket tweaked - the factory ones certainly lasted longer than the drop brackets.

-Scerb

Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: Rodgertheshrubber] #805811 04/24/07 05:58 PM
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Long story short: I ordered my 3" Trail Gear SAS kit last night


so what you are really telling us is to be prepared for "broken SAS part" threads in 6 months?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


he dont beat it hard enough to sanp something up front.

me on the other hand.......


1988 YOAT "Stumpy"
-Lock-Right -Fabtech spare tire carrier
-3in PA BL -Custom Flatbed
-32x11.5 cooper mall-terrains <BALD>
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: Rodgertheshrubber] #805812 04/24/07 10:31 PM
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Long story short: I ordered my 3" Trail Gear SAS kit last night


so what you are really telling us is to be prepared for "broken SAS part" threads in 6 months?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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'84 PU low & slow
Central Valley Crawlers
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: ovrrdrive] #805813 08/20/07 10:56 PM
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Diddo on this problem, and it's still causing trouble. Here's my original breakage:

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If it makes you feel any better they have changed and upgraded the diff bracket you've had so much trouble with. It's definitely re-enforced and the washers that you don't appear to have used in this pic aren't necesarry anymore...


I ordered the new bracket from SuperLift, cost me an arm and a leg. Yes it is a significantly different design, what I thought to be a big improvement, but one day on the trail and it too was broken. SAS is calling my name.


Joanna
1992 Toyota 4Runner -- 3.0L V6, MT, 4.7 TC
Amateur Radio AE License
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805814 08/20/07 11:55 PM
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Here's a pic of the new bracket, broken on Dusy/Ershim yesterday. Also note the new angle of the stock mount. What a mess.

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Joanna
1992 Toyota 4Runner -- 3.0L V6, MT, 4.7 TC
Amateur Radio AE License
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805815 08/21/07 01:44 AM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
EXACTLY what my first break looked like. You're done for <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805816 08/21/07 02:10 AM
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ovrrdrive Offline
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Here's a pic of the new bracket, broken on Dusy/Ershim yesterday. Also note the new angle of the stock mount. What a mess.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/Blossom2468/4Runner/4d468faa.jpg


Ouch... Yep that's it.

I guess it's no better then.

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Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: ovrrdrive] #805817 08/21/07 03:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
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Jake97T Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Im so glad those days are over for me...same bracket from above, welded several times and broken several times on my T100, Total Chaos LT hasnt let me down yet...wee bit more money though...ive been looking for a truck lately to do a SAS on for the future...


97 FZJ80, Stock, Factory Lockers.
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: Jake97T] #805818 08/21/07 07:00 AM
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walktastic Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
its pretty obvious that there are some problems with IFS lifts, but for daily driving are they really that bad?


V6 pickup 4x4, 385,000 miles and still ticking
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