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Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: walktastic] #805819 08/21/07 02:55 PM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
No they are perfectly fine for on the road. And even mild 4-wheeling. If you are going to push the truck to its limits though, you will destroy one.

Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805820 08/22/07 02:48 AM
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subliminaltrips Offline
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Diddo on this problem, and it's still causing trouble. Here's my original breakage:

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If it makes you feel any better they have changed and upgraded the diff bracket you've had so much trouble with. It's definitely re-enforced and the washers that you don't appear to have used in this pic aren't necesarry anymore...


I ordered the new bracket from SuperLift, cost me an arm and a leg. Yes it is a significantly different design, what I thought to be a big improvement, but one day on the trail and it too was broken. SAS is calling my name.


yea ovrrdrive this is te same bracket ive welded on chris' truck twice. fter the first weld it broke on off a bit lower than where i welded the second time i welded the piss out of it and i dont think its broke yet.

cough" ifs sux "cough

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Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: subliminaltrips] #805821 08/22/07 04:22 AM
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yea ovrrdrive this is te same bracket ive welded on chris' truck twice. fter the first weld it broke on off a bit lower than where i welded the second time i welded the piss out of it and i dont think its broke yet.

cough" ifs sux "cough

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The pic you quoted isn't the one I have on my truck...

Not that it's much better, but at least they tried to improve it.

Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: walktastic] #805822 08/22/07 09:41 AM
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Snowtoy Offline
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its pretty obvious that there are some problems with IFS lifts, but for daily driving are they really that bad?


The main problems withe IFS lifts tend to be either design flaws or operator error. I have been running a Trailmaster 4" on my '90 since '94, it is a daily driver and was my main trail rig which I wheeled moderate to hard trails in the past, w/o anything failing other than bending an idler arm or 2, or 3, or... It is also heavier rig than most, w/o passengers or camping gear it weighs over 4600lbs, when loaded for the trails it weighs just under 5300lbs. I don't try to baby it when on the tails but then again I don't feel the need to bash my way up trail either. If I can't get one line I will back up and take another, or stack a rock or two to get through. Throttling down will almost always lead to breakage regardless of being an IFS stock/lifted or stock SA rig.

Before buying a lift you need to determine what your end result will be. If you want to run 33's on moderate to hard trails and don't want to bash through like you see in magazines/TV shows, and still have a nice highway ride, then an IFS lift will be fine. You may also want to consider a 2" body lift and some 1.5" jall-joint spacers. The BL+BJ approach will be far cheaper than either IFS lift or an SAS. It should give you the ability to clear 33's w/o rubbing/sheet metal trimming, and the time to determine if you want to go with bigger tires, and if your wheeling desires require a SA rig. However if you figure you will likely want to take the throttle down approach, turning 35's or bigger, than an SA with all of the aftermarket SA upgrades($$$$$) is mandatory. Anything else would be a waste of money


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
'90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction.
'91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805823 10/09/07 04:39 AM
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Here's a pic of the new bracket, broken on Dusy/Ershim yesterday. Also note the new angle of the stock mount. What a mess.

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In follow up to my breakage, here's the bent stock mount that was a pain to pull back down
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And here's the repair that's holding up so far, though I think I'm gonna need to further reinforce if I'm to prevent bracket from breaking for a third time.
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Joanna
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Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: BlossomCA] #805824 10/09/07 06:22 PM
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How are you guys getting off the trail with brackets that are so badly broken? I don't carry a welder and couldn't fabricate a part to save my life. I also drive to the trailhead if wheeling, so I'd have to be able to drive home, too. Thankfully I've not had much trouble with my Superlift. I hope to keep it that way!

Re: Why I say 4" ifs lifts suck... [Re: Jeepeater] #805825 10/09/07 07:05 PM
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Scerb Offline OP
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Either get out in 2wd or get a tow. I would usually just beat the truck a little to see if I could get over the obstacle in 2, if not then I would hook up the strap. Having a rear locker helped <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

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