Yes off-roader, the Jeep kids that I am talking about dont even work on their trucks as they are very stock and going through mud puddles is their idea of off roading. The old school Jeep guys have the true Jeep that was built by them and continually being worked on. The hardcore Jeep guys are the ones helping me out as most of their rigs are Chevy enhanced and they have the tools and shop.

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