sorry forgot to add that.....egr system been checked and it is functioning correctly....

as far as the jumper to check codes....im not throwin any codes.....so that wont help much =\

and i cannot even get a solid reading on the timing cause the motor is jumpin all around....so jumpering it and trying to put it at -10 is pretty much a crap shoot

thanks for the replies tho =]

went out this mornin thinkin it fixed itself over night....and it didnt....

hahah....anymore ideas?