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Re: Lift kits [Re: MemphisFred] #811703 05/14/07 07:21 PM
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blitz Offline
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i dont have any contact info..try the search function for "up your kia" im not sure how to use the search menu. you could do the dennis kit and body lift,that might work out ok.

Re: Lift kits [Re: blitz] #811704 05/14/07 09:23 PM
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sorry forgot to add i used dennes's kit with eibach lift springs. which i think are discontinued sorry dude.




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Re: Lift kits [Re: MemphisFred] #811705 05/14/07 09:34 PM
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On the subject of gears and lockers, I've read on here that the ratios are 4.78. That's actually pretty low already.

Digressing to my days running locked and loaded Samurais, they had 1.3L, 205/70R15 tires with 3.73 gears stock. The available gear ratios were 4.57, 4.88 and 5.12. Now, the 4.57 would bring the Samurai running 33's back to street tolerances while the 4.88 and 5.12 would of course give you more crawling capabilites.

Now, the Sami's only weighed 1836 lbs compared to KIA at 3500 lbs. (Damn that's heavy for such a small vehicle). That means the KIA already has a bigger motor and lower gears with the same size tires, so does the weight have that much to do with it or does the transmission and transfer have that high of gears?

Anybody have one lifted with bigger tires that is an A/T? How does the A/T do pulling those bigger tires?


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Re: Lift kits [Re: MemphisFred] #811706 05/15/07 12:24 AM
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you have to take into consideration that the stock gearing is aimed at the stock tire size, so all though they are already low gears, as soon as you go up in tire size you are messing with that ratio and wanting lower gears to get it back to the proper ratio.

i just weighed my sport at my old work and it came in at 2860 with me and all my off road gear in it! that was also lifted, with the much heavier wheels! I think that 3500lbs is a little off!

there is also a body lift that you can find, just do a search for 4CRAWLER and you will find it.

and the UP YOUR KIA spacers also are available for stock springs, and if you want to only use them in the front, i think guys are using aerostar coils in the back or TJ coils.

do a search for them in this forum and you will find all the contact info you need to get ahold of dennis!


2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2377991
Re: Lift kits [Re: DEFBOY35] #811707 05/15/07 12:54 AM
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I was going to add something but I forgot anyway.........................................................................................What DefBoy Said!

Re: Lift kits [Re: Hydra747] #811708 05/15/07 03:15 AM
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Iron Offline
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The cheap and esay way is to go with the suspenssion spacers Dennis sells! I have them on my Sporty and they gave me a 2 1/4 lift on the rear and 2 1/2 on the front, the ride is actually better than stock in my opinion with spacers. On top of that I put 30' Tires, and rims with a diffrent offset.

The spacers dennis sells are esay to install, unless you find a rusted A-arm bolt or two (ok you Will find a rusted bolt or two) but should take between 2 and 72 hours, depending how damaged that A-arm bolt was! I'm not sure on Dennis prices to date, but the spacers should run you under $250, (Add another $60 per A-arm bolt if you have to get a replacement from the dealer.)

I take it youre looking for ground clearance. The lowest point of the Sporty is the Diff Pumpkin, and the only way to raise that is with bigger tires, all the supsension lifts and body lifts will do nothing for ground clearance if you don't put on bigger tires.

The biggest tire you can put on a Sporty without any form of lift is 30' (some say 31' but each application is diffrent so I'm using 30' as a rule of thumb not a given measurement) For anything over 30' you will need to either do some trimming of the body and bumpers or go with a lift, suspenssion or body. I have 30's on my Sporty but I also have Egale rims, not stock rims. The offset on the Egale rims makes my tires stick out an extra 3 inches on either side, compared to stock, giving me a wider stance and helping in preventing 'tipping'. But to get the 30's on those rims into the wheel wells without rubbing I had to put on a 2' lift.

You can aslo do a body lift! they come in 2 sizes 3' which no one recomends as it is unsafe and requires more 'fabbing' to make things workable, and a 1 3/8' lift which requires only the relocation of the power stearing resovoir and a little trimming around the 4 wheel drive lever (or a longer lever)

As youre tires get bigger your top speed goes down, with 30's you can look at a top speed of around 120Kph, with 31's be happy if you hit 100Kph.
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Re: Lift kits [Re: Iron] #811709 05/15/07 03:41 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
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haha, i am sure i still am able to hit around 115 on the highway with the 31's


2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2377991
Re: Lift kits [Re: DEFBOY35] #811710 05/15/07 04:08 AM
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Re: Lift kits [Re: DEFBOY35] #811711 05/15/07 04:32 AM
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haha, i am sure i still am able to hit around 115 on the highway with the 31's


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Re: Lift kits [Re: Iron] #811712 05/15/07 05:24 AM
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